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Old 03-30-2002, 03:56 PM   #7
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Originally posted by dhamsaic
Mmmmm, okay. How about... all black americans rise up after getting fucked over for hundreds of years of racism and slavery? Ah, yeah, great! Would you applaud that too?
Huh? I do applaud Black Americans. I am applauding the Israelis. But the scenario you describe has happened. Ever heard of Martin Luther King, Jr.? Mohandas Gandhi? True, lasting change can (and eventually does) come peacefully, not by royally pissing off your oppressor. I know, short term, it may suck, but long term the benefits will outweigh the bad stuff. Not to mention giving you the moral high ground. And what the fuck is it with Islam where a sizeable number (not all) adherents to the faith think a sure path to Paradise is via the indiscrimanant slaughter of innocent non-combatants? This is not collateral damage. There is no place for that kind of shit in a civilized world.

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It's hardly accurate to say "the Jews are finally striking back". Israel has been striking for its entire 54 years. Period.
All I can say is when you take the last 54 years out of 3000, yes that is relatively recent...

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Israel is demanding that Arafat "rein in militants". Then they go blow up his police stations.
Remember the picture of the mutilated body of an Israeli soldier being tossed out the window of a Palestinian Police Station? I don't think the attacks are random.

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Let's not forget that Israel struck first in the 1967 war and claimed the Sinai, Gaza Strip, West Bank and Golan Heights (From Egypt, Jordan and Syria, respectively). That is, of course, a little mentioned fact.
Little mentioned? Are you fucking shittin' me? The Russians basically did the same thing after WWII, try to put a buffer between yourself and your enemy. It's completely understandable, IMO.

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Attacking Arafat is symbolic and serves only one purpose - to destroy his government so he is not able to function.
Here you manage to contradict yourself in a single sentence! I don't think there's any symbolic purpose at all, they're simply giving a hearty 'FUCK YOU' to Arafat.

I'm not saying the Israelis are saints, but they've put with far more shit than I would have. Does that make me a genocidal tyrant?
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