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Old 06-17-2004, 11:49 AM   #31
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The jawline, maybe? That kind of jumped out at me. The other thing may be the hair on the right-hand side. It kind of looks to me like she's missing half her head there. Other than that, it looks great and I envy your talent.
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Old 06-17-2004, 12:00 PM   #32
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yea the hair there is a little fucked but the face shadows are a mess, here, made a few more mods.
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Old 06-17-2004, 12:08 PM   #33
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I think the shadows are too harsh. Maybe pick a lighter color? Or it looks like there's a bit of pink in the skin tone, maybe add a touch of pink to the shadows as well?

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Old 06-17-2004, 12:24 PM   #34
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Watch the outline of the jaw into the neck, its wierd. if you cant resolve the angle with shadow, make her hair fall over it.

Shading- On her shady side: the face contour is great - you sense the structure. The dark side of the nose is heavy handed. It would not be so regularly dark around the end of the nose. I think I need another nostril indicated. (The silliness of these sentences is entertaining me) The lighter side of the face is confusing. I would make a dark contour line between lips. maybe add soft shading to upper lip, that little curve, and under mouth -What would receed a bit. Maybe even match the nose end shadows to what would also be indicated at the chin to be consistent with light source. This lighter side of the nose is strange. Maybe shadow just near the eye and towards the bottom where it comes forward. And the cheek shadow, I dont think you need it at all.
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Old 06-17-2004, 12:26 PM   #35
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Looking again at the jaw- the head width is off, you need to thin it or add bits of an ear. That jaw curve ends at your ear.
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Old 06-17-2004, 12:49 PM   #36
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Not sure what I'd do without you =)

Time to add some serious hair i think
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Old 06-17-2004, 12:56 PM   #37
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how are we looking now?
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Old 06-17-2004, 01:55 PM   #38
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Wow, much improved. Very very nice. I'd add some highlights to the hair, but that's just me.
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Old 06-17-2004, 02:07 PM   #39
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make her eyes a smidge larger. she seems to be squinting
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Old 06-17-2004, 02:07 PM   #40
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Looking better! I think the proportions of the face and jaw are still too wide though on that lighter side. In the image, the distance from eye to hairline is too large. (check this on your own face)and from the corner of your mouth to jaw/ear is not so wide either. Bring that hairline in a bit.
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Old 06-17-2004, 02:18 PM   #41
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bring the jaw up a little as well? I'm not sure and it's a fair bit of work so I thought I'd get an opinion first
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Old 06-17-2004, 02:43 PM   #42
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I dunno, just trace the jawline up to where you think the ear would be placed. think about the temple. you dont have to do an ear, but that will help the proportion.
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Old 06-17-2004, 02:48 PM   #43
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Yea I just noticed it sort of slopes down towards the end, odd, not sure how that happened. Almost finished the torso so i'll finish that, do the corrections then shove up another copy.

Thankyou for all this help, you've all been invaluable, particularly warch who clearly knows his stuff.
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Old 06-17-2004, 03:05 PM   #44
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Ahem. Her stuff.
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Old 06-17-2004, 03:35 PM   #45
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whoops! *begs forgivness*

The hands are poor, working on that but they're bloody hard in that position.
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