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[Carbonated_Brains]

Stop treating DNA evidence like it's some light switch that turns on the "guilty" bulb over the killer's head.

DNA evidence CAN be contested in court, is sometimes overturned, is notoriously difficult to use conclusively, and is by no means perfect.

It's just another tool used by detectives, same as any other.

[elSicomoro]

Originally posted by Lady Sidhe
You leave something everywhere you go, whether you commit a crime or not

Back it up.

[Lady Sidhe]

Originally posted by Happy Monkey
How often do they pick crimes for which no evidence was found?

They put those on Cold Case Files.

[Lady Sidhe]

Originally posted by Carbonated_Brains
Stop treating DNA evidence like it's some light switch that turns on the "guilty" bulb over the killer's head.

DNA evidence CAN be contested in court, is sometimes overturned, is notoriously difficult to use conclusively, and is by no means perfect.

It's just another tool used by detectives, same as any other.

What some people don't seem to realize is that you can mess up DNA to make it look like it isn't someone it IS, but you can't mess it up to make it look like it IS someone it ISN'T.

DNA is not as open to being contested as other types of tools. You know, I'll bet you're all for DNA evidence when it's exculpatory, and proves that someone has been imprisoned falsely, but are one of the first to talk about how it isn't perfectly accurate when it's used to convict someone, aren't you?

[Lady Sidhe]

Originally posted by sycamore


Back it up.

Let me look up the "rule" that says that. It's one of the first things they teach you in Forensics. Since one is constantly shedding skin flakes and hair, one leaves "evidence" of one's presence everywhere they go.

[elSicomoro]

Originally posted by Lady Sidhe
Let me look up the "rule" that says that. It's one of the first things they teach you in Forensics. Since one is constantly shedding skin flakes and hair, one leaves "evidence" of one's presence everywhere they go.

Proof?

[Lady Sidhe]

*sigh*

It's an accepted "rule," proven enough so that it's been in use for close to a century. It was discovered by a scientist and named after him.

If you don't shed skin and hair, you're the only person in the world that doesn't.

And apparantly, it seems that even if I find it, it won't make a difference. You'll just keep wanting more "proof." Why don't you find a forensics forum and ask someone with a PhD? Or would you consider them to not know what they're talking about as well?

[elSicomoro]

Originally posted by Lady Sidhe
*sigh*

It's an accepted "rule," proven enough so that it's been in use for close to a century. It was discovered by a scientist and named after him.

Okay. So why can't you provide the information?

If you don't shed skin and hair, you're the only person in the world that doesn't.

I'm not arguing that. I just think it's possible to be in a spot at a particular time and not leave anything.

And apparantly, it seems that even if I find it, it won't make a difference. You'll just keep wanting more "proof." Why don't you find a forensics forum and ask someone with a PhD? Or would you consider them to not know what they're talking about as well?

I merely asked you to back up your statement, and I don't think you have. If you don't want people to challenge your opinions and/or statements, then don't make 'em.

[jinx]

Originally posted by Lady Sidhe



You leave something everywhere you go, whether you commit a crime or not: hair, skin flakes, clothing fibers. It's whether they FOUND the forensic evidence or not .

The point being that it's not always available. You cannot "make it mandatory".

[xoxoxoBruce]

OK you leave something everywhere you go, but so does everyone that passes by. How do you sort out the perp from all the rest?

[wolf]

SIDHE: If you don't shed skin and hair, you're the only person in the world that doesn't.

SYCAMORE: I'm not arguing that. I just think it's possible to be in a spot at a particular time and not leave anything.

~~~~~~~~+~~~~~~~~

ME: It's also possible for you to leave something behind that isn't found.

Or the fact that it is left behind doesn't mean a slam dunk conviction. Bloody glove, anyone?

[elSicomoro]

Originally posted by wolf
It's also possible for you to leave something behind that isn't found.

No doubt...I mentioned that earlier.

[wolf]

My coworker was decomposing for a month-month and a half before Norristown's finest thought to ask his live-in girlfriend

1. "Can we take a peek in the basement?"

2. "What's that smell?"

(Eau d'Deadguy is quite distinctive. The neighbors had been complaining for several weeks about the stench.)

From the first DAY that he didn't show up to work I was telling people "Sam's dead. She killed him. He's in the basement, wrapped in plastic."

Guess where and how they found him?

[Carbonated_Brains]

Man, that's horrible.

Truly horrifying.

Oh, and BAAhahahhahahahhaha

[elSicomoro]

Originally posted by wolf
My coworker was decomposing for a month-month and a half before Norristown's finest thought to ask his live-in girlfriend

1. "Can we take a peek in the basement?"

2. "What's that smell?"

(Eau d'Deadguy is quite distinctive. The neighbors had been complaining for several weeks about the stench.)

From the first DAY that he didn't show up to work I was telling people "Sam's dead. She killed him. He's in the basement, wrapped in plastic."

Guess where and how they found him?

Wait a minute...was that the one that made the news a few years ago?