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Old 06-08-2020, 06:40 PM   #1
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Be clear why some hate mail-in ballots. It means more people will vote. The more who vote, then the less influence those extremist have over the entire process.

We have Trump because so many moderates did not vote. By doing so, made every extremist vote more powerful. Extremists got the president they wanted.

Extremist invent mythical bogeymen (a right or left) to avoid a hard reality. Only moderates are patriots. Extremists, such as racists, will do anything necessary to minimize every option for moderates to vote. So they attack and obstruct mail-in voting.

Voter fraud is another over-hyped fable to drive moderates off voting rolls.
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Old 06-10-2020, 01:07 AM   #2
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I've been told once I mail my ballot I have no clue what happens to it or if it's counted. My response is when I go it the booth and push the buttons, it's the same thing, no way of knowing where my vote went.
On the mail-in ballot for the primary I can pick some position where someone is running unopposed and vote for myself as a write-in.
I've always registered as independent so no primary, but I switched to Democrat so I could vote for Obama in the primary and hadn't bothered to switch back so it gave me a chance to try out the by mail system. They have a ways to go, but I realize it was a last minute decision to allow it after moving the primary from April, and hundreds of thousands in each county signed on. OK, they were jammed up and took a month to get it to me. I understand, I really do, however DO NOT SAY YOU'RE FUCKING MAILING IT ON MONDAY THE 18th AND NOT MAIL IT UNTIL THE TUESDAY THE 26th.
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Old 06-10-2020, 06:29 AM   #3
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It appears they've closed the black polling stations in Georgia. Those folks need another system.
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Old 06-10-2020, 10:19 AM   #4
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It appears they've closed the black polling stations in Georgia. Those folks need another system.
This is a feature, not a bug. /cynic
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Old 08-14-2020, 06:36 AM   #5
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It appears they've closed the black polling stations in Georgia. Those folks need another system.
Welp. They cheated their way to victory and... are not doing the damn job.

Confirmed cases, hospitalizations and deaths have ballooned sharply since early June, after the state, under Kemp’s direction, became one of the first in the nation to allow businesses to reopen in the spring.

https://apnews.com/7c220bed26f611dcf6ea57af94d516d9
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Old 08-14-2020, 08:58 AM   #6
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On Tuesday, Mr. Trump declared, without offering any evidence, that the 2020 election "will be, in my opinion, the most corrupt election in the history of our country,". He lies.

In Arizona he said, "There is tremendous evidence of fraud whenever you have mail-in ballots". Reality repeatedly reported by honest news services (that he called fake news): no such fraud has been found. He lies.

According to the NY Times, "Mr. Trump has made five dozen false claims about mail balloting since April". Notice that another honest publication defines the lies. "five dozen false claims". He lies.

More comments from someone who only wants to 'wreck things'; what anti-Americans wants.

He intends to deliver his convention speech from the White House lawn. That has always been considered illegal. But then Trump does not even pay his contractors. When, in his entire life, did he care what is legal? He could murder someone on Fifth Ave and still be elected president. That says much about anyone who does not routinely disparage the scumbag. Trump makes Nixon look like an honest man.

Trump says Kamala Harris, who was born in California, does not meet citizenship requirements. Same lies also about Obama that got him mocked by intelligent Americans. But then Trump needs support of the least intelligent - ie KKK, White Supremacist, and Nazis - who Trump praises. So he lies.

Trump publicly stated he wants to obstruct mail-in voting by withholding funding for the US Postal Service. Then later, talked back that comment on a right wing propaganda machine called Fox News. Because he advocated corruption.

Trump claimed five times that Democrats rigged elections through mail-in voting. Trump claimed four times that Republicans are at a disadvantage when mail-in ballots are used or are not sent mail-in ballots at all. Like his disciples, such as Urbane Guerrilla, he lies.
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Old 08-14-2020, 10:58 AM   #7
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On Tuesday, Mr. Trump declared, without offering any evidence, that the 2020 election "will be, in my opinion, the most corrupt election in the history of our country,". He lies.
He lies a lot, but he has the power and inclination to make that sentence true. His justifications for it are lies, but he's already announced that he is trying to corrupt mail-in voting.
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Old 06-10-2020, 11:51 AM   #8
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My response is when I go it the booth and push the buttons, it's the same thing, no way of knowing where my vote went.
Just another reason why the system can only work electronically is if meets those requirements posted (what?) ten years ago?

And just another reason why the counting should also result in paper that can be consulted in a recount.

Previous discussion cited so many electronic voting machine manufacturers whose products were full of holes and security problems.
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Old 08-13-2020, 11:06 PM   #9
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Got an email last evening...

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Dear Pennsylvania Voter:
We are writing to remind you that earlier this year, you signed up to be an annual mail-in voter in Pennsylvania or you recently applied for a mail-in ballot for the general election. Thank you! If you still live in the same county as when you applied, you do not need to re-apply for a mail-in ballot. You will receive a ballot in the mail in September or October, and you will be able to securely vote from the comfort and safety of your home. We are contacting all mail-in ballot applicants, so they do not mistakenly submit duplicate requests.

To track your ballot, visit votesPA.com/MailBallotStatus and enter your information. Right now, your status will be listed as “pending.” If you check your status closer to the election, you will see when your ballot is mailed and when your voted ballot has been received by your county election office.
Yeah, I went and checked, I'm pending.
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Old 08-14-2020, 06:29 AM   #10
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