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Old 05-31-2020, 10:09 PM   #1
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Trump is mostly expendable now. Some elected him for his tactical value in curbing immigration in various ways and may vote for him again despite the mediocre job he did (he didn't get the wall built) since there's the rest of the conservative agenda too.

For those of us playing the long game, any Republican would have done in the last election: it just happened to end up being Trump. The strategic objective was to elect whoever could get a conservative majority on the US Supreme court. That keeps liberal justices from appeasing simple majorities by reinterpreting (spinning) the US Constitution to effect change; thus, bypassing the 2/3 majority needed to effect change by changing the Constitution.

The tradeoff of having President Trump for four years to get a lifetime Supreme Court that's resistant to the whims of political correctness was a bargain with the devil; but, it worked. That having been accomplished, the next President can be elected for entirely different reasons.
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Old 06-01-2020, 06:35 AM   #2
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It was an interesting bet, wouldn't be sure that Trump hasn't created a firmer resolve in the left and while alienating the center. Since the court packing was partly done by denying Obama a seat to fill, the impeachment of Kavanaugh and a followup court packing could be in play. Court packing probably won't happen under Biden but a block of national healthcare probably leads to a radical takeover of the Party.


On race, my daughters college roommate 130 pounds of pretty meek gay poet let his Jesuit social conscience off leash. He stood between POC and the Philly Cops. His white privilege card was apparently revoked automatically. The ER sent him home so apparently no skull fracture, but concussion and bleeding.
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:08 AM   #3
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His white privilege card was apparently revoked automatically. The ER sent him home so apparently no skull fracture, but concussion and bleeding.
One common factor exists. An underlying psychology exists that cannot be explained at a personal level. Agitation and resulting violence (including looting) starts with the approach or application of a curfew.

A peaceful demonstration was marching from Minneapolis to St Paul. When they got to the border, St Paul police attacked them. Apparently what happened at the Edmund Pettus bridge: an example of how history can repeat when one uses emotions and not adult thinking.

I once took a three day trip with only cops. They would tell me stories. One was a cop who was clearly racist. They told me to watch. He would go into the cafeteria, only see blacks behind the counter, and walk out. He did that. Then watch. He would then decide he was too hungry. And would go back in. He did that too. His peers knew who he was - exactly.

Other cops know who among them are extreme racists. But the system includes people who protect them. Reporting bad apples is not permitted.

So many precinct commanders tried to remove bad apples. But those problems were returned. Decisions at highest levels refused to deal with this problem. So many cops demonstrated exactly who were racists. But the system says they cannot even report it.

What happens when one racist is in a line of cops. Actions of that one racist ends up expanding into violence between all cops and all demonstrators. It only takes a spark.

Chauvin clearly was a bad apple. With 18 previous complaints over 18 years. His partner, Tou Thao, had another six complaints. One was so egregious that the city had to settle out of court for $25,000. Thao even tried to intimidate hospital employees because they were spending too long treating Ferguson's injuries. Thao then trashed Ferguson's prescriptions for injuries that Thao had imposed. Another bad apple who watched as Chauvin murdered Floyd. Because Floyd spent a counterfeit $20 bill.

How does one address this problem - that is widespread all over America?

What we have: "In the final analysis, the riot is the language of the unheard. What is it that American has failed to hear?" Dr Martin Luther King Jr 1967

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Old 06-01-2020, 04:54 PM   #4
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It was an interesting bet, wouldn't be sure that Trump hasn't created a firmer resolve in the left and while alienating the center. ...
I'm an Independent, not registered with either party to vote in the primaries; so, I had to play the hand I was dealt. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. I never bet more than I can afford to lose though.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:10 PM   #5
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Go bag is packed then?
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Old 06-01-2020, 08:46 AM   #6
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The tradeoff of having President Trump for four years to get a lifetime Supreme Court that's resistant to the whims of political correctness was a bargain with the devil; but, it worked.
He openly admits he loves damage done to America - socially, economically, internationally, politically, financially, militarily, and scientifically. He even loves it that Kim has been openly permitted to expand his nuclear arsenal. That Kurds were ethnically cleansed. That right wing wacko Likud and Israel will now steal the West Bank. That Trump only praises despots and dictators. Sexobon wants to 'wreck shit' as any good extremist wants. Because Fake Fox News, et al can order him what to believe. It appeals to the emotional brain of a child.

It makes him angry (a tantrum) to learn what justified his beliefs.

Sexobon wants to impose extremist beliefs on all. A Supreme Court of moderates is will not do that. He forgets what right wing extremists believe and openly stated on the Supreme Court. Nobody has a right to privacy. It is not in the Constitution. And it would obstruct right wing fascism.

A church wants to pack people in worship claiming that is an essential business. Everyone (using the adult brain) knows worshipping a god can be done anywhere at any time - all alone. Nobody need collect. With contempt for the rights and lives of all others (especially nurses and doctors), extremists took their Me-Me-Me demands to the Supreme Court. All extremist justices voted to spread a Coronaviruse onto all others. Fortunately the Chief Justice decided to vote as a patriot - a moderate. So the Governor's edict stands. Their Me-Me-Me needs were obstructed by adults thinking like adults - moderates.

Only emotions need to pack people together to worship any god. They must go to be told what to think. Only right wing extremists say that is essential. Meanwhile, America was founded on a principle that right wing extremists hate. Religion is only a relationship between one man and his god. Nothing more. Religious beliefs are never - as in never - to be imposed upon anyone else. Only right wing extremists disagree. Must pack a Supreme Court with extremists who will even impose their religious beliefs upon all others. Sexobon says this is good. That brainwashing appeals to so many adults who are still children.

Because he wants to wreck shit, he openly loves Trump. And does what Trump does to be popular - cheapshots. Destruction is good because it imposes right wing extremism on all others. It even says (without openly admitting it) that black lives do not matter.

Sexobon invents fables about right vs left wing. In reality, it is only about extremists verse moderates.

Only emotional beliefs matter (which explains his racist beliefs and Trump who promotes them). My rights, my emotions, my needs, my entitlements, my flag, my fears, my bully club, my country right or wrong. Extremist rhetoric also massacred 50,000 servicemen in Vietnam for no purpose. And did same to another 5,000 in Iraq - deja vue Vietnam. Extremists who promoted that Mission Accomplish war still do not apologize for those 5,000 useless deaths. They only will if Fake Fox News tells them to. It is called extremism. We need a Supreme Court that protects fascism.

Me-Me-Me is his philosophy alongside Henry Quirk and UG. Even justifies above cheapshots that exist only to demean. An extremist strategy to gain power (as clearly defined in Hitler's book). Because it does what extremists want - destroy adult thinking. Demean anyone who discusses adult thoughts.

Sexobon will even deny his underlying support of racism - contempt for blacks, immigrants, etc. He will deny his beliefs. Otherwise he must admit to what underpins right wing fascism. Emotional beliefs such as hate and Me-Me-Me. He is so extremist as to even believe immigrants have increased crime. Or that immigrants prosper at his expense. His right wing extremist attitude promoted a massacre of 5,000 American servicemen in Iraq for no purpose. He will not admit but believes Trayvon Martin can be blamed for his own death. Filling a Supreme Court with right wing extremists coincides with racism and fascism. All with contempt for moderates. Who would even promote spreading a pandemic. Confrontation and violence only makes fascist (KKK, White Supremacists, Nazis) more powerful. Those are Sexobon's peers.

He will not read all this. It requires an attention span that extremists do not possess. Also why he loves Trump 'wrecks shit' rhetoric. Extremism only requires 140 characters - a Tweet. No wonder extremist hate it that Twitter now requires one to be honest. That, like moderate Supreme Court justices, obstructs fascism.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:09 PM   #7
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Four more years of President Trump for you.

Four more years of Ivanka for me.
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Old 06-01-2020, 06:03 PM   #8
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Four more years of President Trump for you.
Four more years of Ivanka for me.
And 400 more murders of innocent minority men encouraged by Trump. Sexobon expresses sympathy with Nazis, White Supremacists, KKK, and a scumbag president. He openly admits he approves of the scumbag. Because it will achieve his fascist beliefs - that include hate, racism, economic recession, wasted military lives, loss of international respect, demonstration that result in riots, looting and police violence, fear, a need for more guns, rampant pandemics, and same things that Henry Quirk and Urbane Guerrilla (his peers) also want. He wants to 'wreck shit'. Same technique that Nazis used 90 years ago.

Her name is Melania. He will trade her in, like a used car, for a new one. Sexobon apparently wants what Trump had. Amazing the things that a Trump lover wants.

Sexobon even lies about his political beliefs. He supports right wing extremist Republicans. And admits it. Now suddenly he is not? Lying is how Nazis and Trump also gained power.
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Old 06-01-2020, 06:42 PM   #9
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Four more years of President Trump for you.

Four more years of Ivanka for me.
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… Her name is Melania. He will trade her in, like a used car, for a new one. Sexobon apparently wants what Trump had. Amazing the things that a Trump lover wants. ...
I referred to Ivanka, his daughter, not Melania, his wife.

I've referenced his daughter, Ivanka, several times before.

You're such a dingbat that you don't know the difference between the President's daughter and his wife!

Are they treating you well there at the home? Keeping you safe from looters I hope. At least you don't have to worry about anyone stealing your marbles, they're already long gone.
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