The Loyal Opposition

[Luce]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

You are in even less of a position to sneer now, you who hadn't and haven't the mental health to function in military circumstance. You never bet your life on your society, your civilization. I understand you to be an object of contempt, and as far as that goes, you quite agree: when you dislike all things, you dislike yourself not least, and perhaps foremost, among them. You end up swamped in an evil. Dismissed.

I did 10 years in the infantry, and I am sneering.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Luce

I did 10 years in the infantry, and I am sneering.

Somehow he is an expert on strategic objectives.

He has constantly insulted me (rather than address facts) since his lies, about a book back around 2003, were exposed. Turns out, everything that UG believed was contradicted by that book. The book defined a George Jr strategy as defective. UG said he was endorsing that Cheney strategy.

The book discussed strategic objectives. It applied directly to what would become the "Mission Accomplished" war and the resulting failures. (His second book was even more complicated.)

UG eventually admitted he never got past the first chapter in that first book. He only saw what he wanted to see - as a Corporal would. That Corporal did not even know the difference between tactical objectives and strategic objectives. But he is somehow a military genius.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by tw

Somehow he is an expert on strategic objectives.

That is why I am sneering.

UG eventually admitted he never got past the first chapter in that first book. He only saw what he wanted to see - as a Corporal would. That Corporal did not even know the difference between tactical objectives and strategic objectives. But he is somehow a military genius.

I was a sergeant, and I never dealt with strategic objectives. Our objectives at my level were more like "sneak around behind that hill" or "cut that road" or "get more MREs up here", etc.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Luce

I did 10 years in the infantry, and I am sneering.

And good for you; what MOS's did you hold? I was addressing tw there.

I made first class petty officer -- Cryptologic Technician (Interpretive) First Class. Good duty if you can get the clearance. In the rear, with the gear, to be sure. I'd be the last to call the job a fun one to watch -- it's guys under headphones staring at equipment.

But the Toxic One -- no prayer of anything like it. Nor of having done anything that worthy.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

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But the Toxic One -- no prayer of anything like it. Nor of having done anything that worthy.

presumably you're talking about the very senior Whitehouse official, the anti hero of this thread.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

And good for you; what MOS's did you hold? I was addressing tw there.

I made first class petty officer -- Cryptologic Technician (Interpretive) First Class. Good duty if you can get the clearance. In the rear, with the gear, to be sure. I'd be the last to call the job a fun one to watch -- it's guys under headphones staring at equipment.

But the Toxic One -- no prayer of anything like it. Nor of having done anything that worthy.

I was an 11B. Army, infantry, bog-standard. E5 when I was medically discharged.