The Politics of a Health Crisis

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Trump supporters don't care. he's an authoritarian dictator, but he's their authoritarian dictator.

Don't believe either one; he's neither. What's more, he doesn't belong to us. Hell, I didn't vote for him. Yet. How could I claim the guy? He's a tycoon, not a politico, and some dope is going to tell me that's a dealbreaker??? I think some dope is going to get crushingly ignored. Out of sheer personal excellence, I'll not describe his immediate ancestry, while perhaps questioning whether he's a precious child of God.

Authoritarian Dictators, even capitalised, never support gun rights -- repeat, never. Not ever. Has this *never* entered your head, DanaC? Doesn't look like it. Your education is wanting. Dictatorships can't survive armed polities -- societies so principled are pretty much the only civilized ones -- can't do that worst of barbarisms, state barbarism.

(Every not-democrat in the forum just rolled his eyes reading this.)

Begin by studying dictators, so you'll actually know one when you see one, and not get yourself fact-checked into splinters.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by tw

As one commentator noted, he his not a dictator. He only acts like one on TV. [If there -- UG] His supporters want a fictional world where everything is only good or evil. And everything is understood in tweets.

There are two kinds of people in the world: those who believe that -- and those who are au courant.

[tw]

Originally Posted by sexobon

Too Little, Too Late Obama had people create a Playbook for what to do; when, he should have already done most of it!

Political spin. Reality: Sars (a coronavirus) is why the George Jr administration began addressing this problem after 2003. As that promised to be a pandemic, then suddenly (and curiously) it stopped.

Swine Flu (H2N1) in 2009 revived efforts to prepare. Even National Guard units were training for pandemic evacuations starting somewhere before or in 2009.

Mers (another coronavirus) in 2012 then resulted in another reexamination. Two years later, Ebola further enhanced preparation that resulted in creation of the Pandemic Playbook starting in 2015. All that during Obama's era.

Everything was setup and ready to go when a president, using his 30 second attention span, destroyed it all.

We know when programs, started as a result of that 2015 study, were stifled - in and after 2016. Lack of support (ie refusing to fund purchases) by the executive branch was evident. He wants more money for the military and cuts to all other programs.

Preparations and reevaluation had been constantly occurring and were upgraded with both George Jr and Obama. Even identified in 2015 was a severe shortage of masks and other protective gear that had not been identified by the George Jr administration.

But some of us so hate America as to not badmouth what is clearly a worst American president in over 100 years. A 30 second attention span exists because so many of us so hate America as to even vote for a man - who can kill someone on Fifth Ave and still be elected. He so hates the American people as to even insist in March 2020 that Covid-19 was a hoax. No way around reality and who he is.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

"destroyed it all"? Then, tw, you'd be among the umpty-hundred-thousand dead.

If you believe yourself an immortal, you're a bigger fool than you daily tell me you are.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by sexobon

Too Little, Too Late Obama had people create a Playbook for what to do; when, he should have already done most of it!

Doesn't explain Trump walking backwards on it.

[tw]

Originally Posted by sexobon

Too Little, Too Late Obama had people create a Playbook for what to do; when, he should have already done most of it!

Political spin. Reality: Sars (a coronavirus) is why the George Jr administration began addressing this problem after 2003. As that promised to be a pandemic, then suddenly (and curiously) it stopped.

Swine Flu (H2N1) in 2009 revived efforts to prepare. Even National Guard units were training for pandemic evacuations starting somewhere before or in 2009.

Mers (another coronavirus) in 2012 then resulting in another reexamination. Two years later, Ebola further enhanced preparation that resulted in creation of the Pandemic Playbook starting in 2015. All that during Obama's ear.

Everything was setup and ready to go when a president, using his 30 second attention span, destroyed it all.

We know when programs, started as a result of that 2015 study, were stifled - in and after 2016. Lack of support (ie refusing to fund purchases) by the executive branch was evident. He wants more money for the military and cuts to all other programs.

Preparations and reevaluation had been constantly occurring and were upgraded with both George Jr and Obama. Even identified in 2015 was a severe shortage of masks and other protective gear that had not been identified by the George Jr administration.

But some of us so hate America as to not badmouth what is clearly a worst American president in over 100 years. A 30 second attention span exists because so many of us so hate America as to even vote for a man - who can kill someone on Fifth Ave and still be elected. He so hates the American people as to even insist in March 2020 that Covid-19 was a hoax. No way around reality and who he is.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by tw

Political spin. Reality: Sars (a coronavirus) is why the George Jr administration began addressing this problem after 2003. As that promised to be a pandemic, then suddenly (and curiously) it stopped.

Swine Flu (H2N1) in 2009 revived efforts to prepare. Even National Guard units were training for pandemic evacuations starting somewhere before or in 2009.

Mers (another coronavirus) in 2012 then resulted in another reexamination. Two years later, Ebola further enhanced preparation that resulted in creation of the Pandemic Playbook starting in 2015. All that during Obama's era.

Everything was setup and ready to go when a president, using his 30 second attention span, destroyed it all.

We know when programs, started as a result of that 2015 study, were stifled - in and after 2016. Lack of support (ie refusing to fund purchases) by the executive branch was evident. He wants more money for the military and cuts to all other programs.

Preparations and reevaluation had been constantly occurring and were upgraded with both George Jr and Obama. Even identified in 2015 was a severe shortage of masks and other protective gear that had not been identified by the George Jr administration.

But some of us so hate America as to not badmouth what is clearly a worst American president in over 100 years. A 30 second attention span exists because so many of us so hate America as to even vote for a man - who can kill someone on Fifth Ave and still be elected. He so hates the American people as to even insist in March 2020 that Covid-19 was a hoax. No way around reality and who he is.

Originally Posted by tw

Political spin. Reality: Sars (a coronavirus) is why the George Jr administration began addressing this problem after 2003. As that promised to be a pandemic, then suddenly (and curiously) it stopped.

Swine Flu (H2N1) in 2009 revived efforts to prepare. Even National Guard units were training for pandemic evacuations starting somewhere before or in 2009.

Mers (another coronavirus) in 2012 then resulting in another reexamination. Two years later, Ebola further enhanced preparation that resulted in creation of the Pandemic Playbook starting in 2015. All that during Obama's ear.

Everything was setup and ready to go when a president, using his 30 second attention span, destroyed it all.

We know when programs, started as a result of that 2015 study, were stifled - in and after 2016. Lack of support (ie refusing to fund purchases) by the executive branch was evident. He wants more money for the military and cuts to all other programs.

Preparations and reevaluation had been constantly occurring and were upgraded with both George Jr and Obama. Even identified in 2015 was a severe shortage of masks and other protective gear that had not been identified by the George Jr administration.

But some of us so hate America as to not badmouth what is clearly a worst American president in over 100 years. A 30 second attention span exists because so many of us so hate America as to even vote for a man - who can kill someone on Fifth Ave and still be elected. He so hates the American people as to even insist in March 2020 that Covid-19 was a hoax. No way around reality and who he is.

Get a grip on yourself, tw. You posted the same thing twice. Let it go, man. There are more important things going on in the world. Look, Apollonia and Sheila E are fueding!

Apollonia Slams Sheila E.’s Prince Tribute: ‘You Are So Desperate to Be Relevant’

Tw, you are so desperate to be relevant.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by Luce

Doesn't explain Trump walking backwards on it.

Because it's there (and it was Obama's).

If people aren't OK with that, they can blame themselves for not having fielded a better Democratic candidate in '16.

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by monster

This one makes me SO FUCKING ANGRY

While everyone else cancelled their extended family get together plans and just used Zoom/whatever, Ivanka/Donaldetta travelled from DC to Virus hotspot New Jersey to celebrate with her family and the whitwhouse is defendidng it saying it's no different from travelling to work.

I agree; also, NYC Gov's brother and CNN guy Chris Cuomo violated quarantine in a similar way AFTER TESTING POSITIVE ...and nobody really cares

[Griff]

This from the guy who could have exposed his own mom. What......a......Dick

[xoxoxoBruce]

You're making the assumption no one wants to kill their Mom.

[Undertoad]

George Stephanopoulos out and about in the Hamptons and picking up prescriptions at the pharmacy after testing positive

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by tw

Political spin.
. . .

But some of us so hate America as to not badmouth what is clearly a worst American president in over 100 years. A 30 second attention span exists because so many of us so hate America as to even vote for a man - who can kill someone on Fifth Ave and still be elected. He so hates the American people as to even insist in March 2020 that Covid-19 was a hoax. No way around reality and who he is.

He did not insist the epidemic or the virus was any hoax, as actually reading the transcript can tell you -- but it shan't, you hater.

What is anyone doing listening to Hill Democratic spokesmen when intellectual powerhouses like Mark Levin or Dennis Prager or Sebastian Gorka are available? Really, some people are only fit to talk about the Steele dossier with the Easter Bunny. Over caramel mochas.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

He did not insist the epidemic or the virus was any hoax,

Yes he did - in the White House press room. And repeatedly. How quickly his brainwashed supporters forget that he lies repeatedly - to wreck shit.

He cannot help himself since he has been lying all his life. He also forgets that NSC blunt warning on 12 Jan accurately describing what was coming. Maybe because that warning was more than 140 characters - a tweet. Too long for his 30 second attention span.

His mouthpiece - Fox News - also repeated that lie. Even their Dr Drew is cited here lying about what was obvious.

The Don's sidekick (VP Pence) today lied plenty of test kits are available. Numbers - what liars must always avoid. America can only test 150,000 per day. A number that is decreasing due to a severe lack of reagents (another problem created by top management).

Numbers that brainwashed Americans ignore to stay brainwashed (same reason those people wanted 5000 American soldiers massacred in Iraq for no purpose). Medical professionals say testing must be somewhere between 5,000,000 and 20,000,000 tests daily.

That is 30+ times more than are currently available. But Pence today said enough kits are available. He lied. He is an extremists. Lying is part of that life style.

The brainwashed refuse to mock their false idols. America's enemies even said they want to wreck shit. Well, these extremists have the leaders, deaths, and economic destruction they want.

Today's trophy for "lie of the day" goes to VP Pence.

How long is Pence's attention span? Apparently long enough to understand The Don's orders - to lie.

[tw]

Originally Posted by sexobon

You posted the same thing twice

That is once for each eye. So that you cannot ignore it.