I blame.......for our present shit show.

[monster]

but blame doesn't help solve the problem.

More important is who you gonna call?

[Griff]

Originally Posted by monster

but blame doesn't help solve the problem.

More important is who you gonna call?

I think we're calling Bernie. Only he and Warren would move the party sufficiently left to recreate a balance and send moderate Republicans home. If we go Biden we continue this middle way nonsense which will lead to more theatrical absurdity on the right. I don't want a one party state. The GOP has painted itself into a corner it doesn't have the ability to leave on its own. The Dems may have to help them out.

[sexobon]

Originally Posted by Griff

… this middle way nonsense which will lead to more theatrical absurdity on the right. ...

Say what? You're already tired of Donald Trump's Flying Circus and are looking now for something completely different?

RELEASE THE KILLER RABBIT!

[tw]

Originally Posted by Griff

The GOP has painted itself into a corner it doesn't have the ability to leave on its own. The Dems may have to help them out.

And Democrats are painting themselves into a corner thanks to an extremist - Bernie.

Moderates know that no solution is recommended until a problem is first defined. History demonstrates this.

Long ago, automobile insurance was going the way of health insurance. Did we nationalize car insurance - get the government to pay for it? Of course not. First a problem was defined. Then much later, a solution addressed only that problem. Litigation. Car insurance was no longer approaching $5000.

Industry (free markets) alone could not solve this problem Free markets only work if properly regulated. So government created a new standard (regulations) that addressed that insurance industry problem - no fault insurance.

Bernie wants to solve health insurance by throwing government money at it. He is neither addressing nor even defining problems. His intentions are admirable. But he only want to cure symptoms with money - not address the problems. No different than Trump. What his left wing extremism advocates is different from Trump's dumb extremism advocates. But both only want to solve problems by ignoring the problem.

Also explains why moderates are good leaders. A problem or threat is defined long before throwing money at some magic solution.

I come from a group where Republicans, Democrats, and independents are in equal numbers. Last election, all votes were against Trump. Because these are educated people - not driven by their penis. Even one, who never voted Democratic, voted against Trump. Trump is that obviously bad. But Sanders may force some moderates to vote from someone they hate - Trump. (Or not vote at all.)

Neither left nor right wing extremists represent American values. Concepts, based in first learning facts before implementing solutions, are found among patriotic Americans.

Leaving the informed voters (the moderates) painted in a corner without any choices. And so The Economist, because both Sanders and Trump are bad for America, has this on their cover: