Chilling

[Undertoad]

We could find much more and everybody in this thread knows it

[Flint]

I'm genuinely curious, let's hear some more examples of--

... a phrase that is more condescending than calling one subset of America "real America".

Nobody even needs to have said them--just, can you IMAGINE something more condescending than that?

[Luce]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

She apologized for saying half, and then the conservatives insisted that it was all.

This is why you don't apologize to republicans for anything ever.

[Undertoad]

Sub-human is more condescending than sub-American.

[Happy Monkey]

Do you have any examples of sub-human? Or was that a response to Flint?

[Flint]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Sub-human is more condescending than sub-American.

Oof, that's one.

Key and Peele had a bit about a racist celebrity quote, referring to a "pack of [n-words]" and how saying "a pack of" was the worst part.

“Pack” is the most racist thing I’ve ever heard anyone say in my life.
I would rather someone say, “You got r*ped “by a group of ni**ers,” than “A pack of African-Americans went to a physics presentation.
” Yes, yes.
(laughter) - Right? - I would be less offended.

[Undertoad]

I don't have examples in this forum. A friend of mine has said sub-human and similar terms for his various enemies on the right. We can easily find them from both sides over time. It's the culture war in action

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by Flint

Oof, that's one.

Key and Peele had a bit about a racist celebrity quote, referring to a "pack of [n-words]" and how saying "a pack of" was the worst part.

I thought the dude what said it, used the word "tribe".

Mighta a different part of the quote.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Luce

It's worth mentioning, though, that the right has been talking mad shit about the left since 1979.

So I am slightly less than sympathetic to calls for civility now.

Which calls are not heard from our Democratic solons in the House at all. The best we've got is that Representative Jeffries has ceased his robotic recitals of Dem impeachment-speak, delivered dead-eyed and with the body language of one who no longer believes a word of what he's reciting, but recites as rehearsed nonetheless. No wonder people leave politics.

The concern for rights and liberties has not lain with the Left since about the mid 1950's. It dwells with the center-Right, which is about the biggest bloc American politics has. The left-leaners are a minority; the hard left is the abode of cranks, slavemongers, and believers in the anti-economics of Marxism. (One wonders what fortunes they might gain if they spent that degree of mental effort on earning a living and providing! -- as Marx did not.)

It's only the right that is concerned with civil rights these couple decades -- and the only ones in that time that seem actually to like them. Does the left advertise its devotion to rights? Certainly it does; gives them a great deal of lip service. But their advertising rings hollow when you see what it is that they claim as a right, and being shamefully denied -- this month. Three months ago they were advertising something else as an unfulfilled right. Theirs is the inconstancy of convenience; their ill-hidden agenda is to lord it over you, wherein they get the rights and you get bupkis.

Socialism is a bad religion, much hewed to by bad-religion sorts who seem to have been born evil, just evil. Perhaps we can only rid ourselves of such bad religion by treating the capital-S Socialists as the Cathars were.

But we still can out-argue these followers of the lesser, more enslaved, less free and liberal way. I do that to Bruce as often as I care to. He's not altogether a bloviating barrel-fish who's easy to shoot, which keeps it interesting, but there's a lot of my education in liberty that he profoundly lacks. Leaves him with a non-free statist mentality. I could recognize an attempt to play catch-up as an intelligent action; haven't seen one yet.

The arguments above about how Trump simply must be an evil cheater against motherhood, apple pie and the American way (uttered by poseurs who wouldn't know what that is) because, um, Trump -- fail to persuade. Note how abstract they are, how singularly and severally lacking in detail or corroboration: no names of the defrauded, no dates, no places, no amounts, no particular lawsuits specified. Indeed, not one of the people posting have been defrauded of anything. Just these opprobrious generalities that address more the utterer than his target. That isn't thought. It is mindless prejudice. Of course. It's the outpourings of personalities that are only the sum total of their resentments, which outpourings are analogous to toxic waste.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Luce

This is why you don't apologize to republicans for anything ever.

Apologize for your prejudice, Luce.

Are you, on the uncapitalized strength of "republicans" written just like that, perhaps a monarchist whose philosophy of governance is the divine right of kings? Such a sentence says you don't even make a syndicalist.

Exhibit thought, not shuck-and-jive.

What Happy Monkey is doing believing and being gratified by Washington's Least Convincing & Least Ethical Blonde remains to be explained.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Conservatives love to complain about liberals condescending to them, but no ivory tower liberal elite avocado-eating college professor will ever come up with a phrase that is more condescending than calling one subset of America "real America".

Do you self-declare you are (perhaps self-) excluded from this, ah, subset? Jealous, much?

I like avocados, either halved and eaten lightly salted out of the rind with a spoon, or beat up into killer guac. And avocado toast with a fried egg.

I am free of invidiousness as well as of prejudice. Emulate me and feel, even be, both happier and more intelligent. Beats bouncing on a Pilates ball to fuck yourself the deeper.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Apologize for your prejudice, Luce.

LOL, no.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

I am free of invidiousness as well as of prejudice. Emulate me and feel, even be, both happier and more intelligent.

Condescention is your only trick.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Condescention is your only trick.

Well, other than being really impressed with himself.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Luce

Well, other than being really impressed with himself.

You miss the point. The Central Committee of the Communist Party has ordered us what to think. He is simply reciting the incantation.

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

It should be noted, as I note, that he' s not stiffing contractors now, nor is he likely to start.

Another allegory that we should all know to be truth. He told us. How can you deny it? ( A few dozen facts and citations must be wrong.)

Clearly we are all reading the wrong books.

We were ordered what to believe.

The elite, the elite. Why are they elite? I have a much better apartment than they do. I am smarter than they are. I am richer than they are.

Last Mar in Michigan:

I have a better education than them. I am smarter than them. I went to the best schools, they didn’t. Much more beautiful house. Much more beautiful apartment. Much more beautiful everything. And I am the president and they are not.

We must be fools to deny that logic.