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Old 02-03-2020, 09:22 AM   #1
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It's a crap article.

Trump isn't libertarian or Libertarian, he's a state capitalist.

The U.S. has had a managed economy for a looooong time, so: there ain't no libertarianism or Libertarianism for him to shy away from.
I was gonna say, Trump has definitely veered away from the right's more libertarian approach to the economy. There is nothing libertarian about him. He is in fact the exact opposite of libertarian.
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Old 02-03-2020, 10:39 AM   #2
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I was gonna say, Trump has definitely veered away from the right's more libertarian approach to the economy. There is nothing libertarian about him. He is in fact the exact opposite of libertarian.
No. If he were the exact opposite he'd be a commie.

Trump is a state-capitalist.

Not the greatest thing is the world to be but still way better than bein' a state-socialist.
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Old 02-03-2020, 11:13 AM   #3
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No. If he were the exact opposite he'd be a commie.

Trump is a state-capitalist.

Not the greatest thing is the world to be but still way better than bein' a state-socialist.
There is no functional difference.

Example: China.

ETA: The dichotomy here isn't capitalism vs communism, it's planned economy vs decentralized.
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Old 02-03-2020, 01:42 PM   #4
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"it's planned economy vs decentralized."

No. Here is the U.S. we don't have either.

We have a managed economy which is not the same as planned. And while not decentralized, the U.S. economy is by no means centralized (instead, it has centers of control, a whole whack of 'em).
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Old 02-03-2020, 02:09 PM   #5
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"it's planned economy vs decentralized."

No. Here is the U.S. we don't have either.

We have a managed economy which is not the same as planned. And while not decentralized, the U.S. economy is by no means centralized (instead, it has centers of control, a whole whack of 'em).
Oh, I know. But the direction Trump is heading is a planned economy.
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Old 02-03-2020, 03:24 PM   #6
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Much of the economy is controlled by what the FED does, which is privately owned by approximately 750 people, many of them not Americans.
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Old 02-03-2020, 07:59 PM   #7
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Much of the economy is controlled by what the FED does, which is privately owned by approximately 750 people, many of them not Americans.
Mebbe so. Speakin' only for me, as a small business, I don't feel particularly controlled; don't see that my lil chunk of the economy is laborin' under sombody's else boot. If we had a legit state-socialism, I suspect I would.
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Oh, I know. But the direction Trump is heading is a planned economy.
Nah, I ain't seein' that. Seems to me he's just correctin' or over-ridin' some of the planning of the previous administration.
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