The Cellar  

Go Back   The Cellar > Main > Politics
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Politics Where we learn not to think less of others who don't share our views

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-18-2020, 10:52 PM   #1
xoxoxoBruce
The future is unwritten
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 71,105
You're right, 59 years ago today Ike said...

Quote:
As we peer into society’s future, we – you and I, and our government – must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering for our own ease and convenience the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow.
Attached Images
 
__________________
The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.
xoxoxoBruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2020, 03:11 PM   #2
Griff
still says videotape
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,813
I don't believe Reagan and Bush 1-2 were anti-American. I believe they had different ideological visions for the country. Bush 2 most obviously fell for the neo-con nonsense. The current occupant's corruption is not ideological. Ideology is how he keeps his believers in line but his corruption is personal and against the interest of the United States.

Emphasis: I believe Reagan loved this country.
__________________
If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you.
- Louis D. Brandeis

Last edited by Griff; 01-23-2020 at 03:12 PM. Reason: Reagan loved our country
Griff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2020, 06:48 AM   #3
Griff
still says videotape
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,813
Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff View Post
The current occupant's corruption is not ideological. Ideology is how he keeps his believers in line but his corruption is personal and against the interest of the United States.

It begins to look like it is ideological. The anti-deep state bullshit just seemed like an appeal to Alex Jones' fruit cakes. It is a lot worse. Hyper-partisanship will make our country ungovernable.

https://heathercoxrichardson.substac.../april-22-2020

The change from Cabaniss to Rigas at the head of OPM transpired just as the novel coronavirus pandemic hit the nation hard.

Rigas has said he believes the 1883 Pendleton Act is unconstitutional. Congress passed the Pendleton Act, also known as the Civil Service Act, after a mentally-ill office seeker shot President James Garfield in 1881. Until then, government positions had been handed out to political loyalists, regardless of their capacity to do the job, but the assassination created a public outcry. Charles Guiteau shot Garfield with the expectation that, once elevated to the presidency, Garfield’s vice president would give Guiteau the position his delusions made him think he deserved. The assassination built momentum behind the idea that government should be non-partisan, and that positions should be filled by people actually equipped to do the job. This sentiment has ruled the nation ever since.

Non-partisan civil service has proved a blessing to the nation in two ways. First of all, over time, as more and more positions came under the act, the government got much more efficient. Second, a non-partisan corps of officials has kept the nation stable since they give their loyalty to the country’s government, rather than to any particular president. Administrations come and go, but government bureaucrats keep the nation on an even keel.

Now, Rigas, the man at the head of the federal government’s 2 million workers, wants to get rid of that system and make all employees of the executive branch political appointees, loyal not to the country but to Trump. Rigas is working with McEntee at the PPO. As of a few weeks ago, agencies now have to submit job openings to the PPO to see if they have anyone they want in the position before they can submit their own choice for it. PPO is filling positions with keen regard for their loyalty: recently it has hired four college seniors to become administration officials.

OPM is the office that is refusing to tell Congress what it’s up to.
__________________
If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you.
- Louis D. Brandeis
Griff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2020, 08:30 AM   #4
tw
Read? I only know how to write.
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 11,933
Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff View Post
The anti-deep state bullshit just seemed like an appeal to Alex Jones' fruit cakes.
From Google:
Quote:
Fruitcakes contain a variety of proteins, from eggs to butter to nuts – even the fruit items. And when proteins are exposed to air, they can become oxidized, which can create rancid flavors and odors
Example of rancid:
Quote:
On March 12, 2020, Jones was issued a cease and desist from the Attorney General of New York, after he claimed, in complete absence of evidence, that products he sold, including colloidal silver toothpaste and dietary supplements, were an effective treatment for COVID-19. The Food and Drug Administration also sent him a letter on April 9, 2020 warning that the federal government might proceed to seize the products he was marketing for COVID-19 or fine him if he continued to sell them.
Even The Don does not recommend his cures. But many buy them only because he orders them what to believe.
tw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2020, 09:22 PM   #5
Griff
still says videotape
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,813
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...m_npd_nn_tw_ma


Speaking of Chilling
__________________
If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you.
- Louis D. Brandeis
Griff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2020, 05:41 AM   #6
tw
Read? I only know how to write.
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 11,933
Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff View Post
Speaking of Chilling
Apparently unknown: Trump was always this criminally ignorant even 40 years ago. He still has not paid the $70 milllion to contractors who built his Taj Mahal casino. Taj then went bankrupt in 1991 - which is how The Don (like any good mafia Don) does business.

Science said air and water pollution were killing us. They were correct. Then science addressed this problem. Science said the ozone layer was being destroyed. Science created a solution. Science said it was unsafe to launch Challenger. They ignored science to murder seven astronauts. Science said Saddam did not have WMDs. We ignored science to massacre 5000 American servicemen for no purpose. Science says global warming does exist and is created by humans. Adults who are still children still deny reality. A British scam doctor claimed that vaccines were causing autism. A blond bimbo with big tits (without even a college education) promoted that lie. Many of us, with contempt for kids, America, and mankind, then believed those lies. Ignored science to even kill kids.

One would think by now that every adult learned; thought like an adult. And yet Alex Jones (and GNC) can sell scams to extremist adults who are still children. Who still ignore science.

Science said a pandemic was coming. A fool with a 30 second attention span did what every Nazi and Communist does. Ignore science. Even called it a hoax. Even promoted hate. As a result, economic damage is severe. And people died uselessly.

Science said hydroxychloroquine is irresponsible science. Originally promoted by a French doctor (Didier Raoult) and promoted by a Fox News type propaganda machine - RT News. Many, who have contempt for science and the world, believed that lie. Including a scumbag with a 30 second attention span. Alex Jones could not have done any better by selling pig urine cures to Trump supporters.

The scumbag and people as dumb or dumber still believe hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin lies. Classic of any extremist with contempt for science and for America.

The 30 second attention span has now subverted science by doing the only thing he understands. "Your fired". Dr Rick Bright accurately (as any patriot would do) wrote:
Quote:
While I am prepared to look at all options and to think ‘outside the box’ for effective treatments, I rightly resisted efforts to provide an unproven drug on demand to the American public. I insisted that these drugs be provided only to hospitalized patients with confirmed Covid-19 while under the supervision of a physician.
That was too accurate for someone who has contempt for science, who loves Nazis, White Supremacists, and the KKK, and who has lied repeatedly every day of his life. Dr Bright was fired.

His latest cure for coronaviruses: bright lights. Who in the Cellar is still so extremist, mentally deficient, and brainwashed as to not recognize his latest lie?
tw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2020, 08:03 PM   #7
Urbane Guerrilla
Person who doesn't update the user title
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Southern California
Posts: 6,674
Quote:
Originally Posted by tw View Post
Even The Don does not recommend his cures. But many buy them only because he orders them what to believe.
Not that you could name three -- or point out four, bubble boy.

The Annoying Orange is what running government in a businesslike fashion looks like. Some twits view this with such an extremity of dread they are reduced to foaming at the mouth -- and the ears, and the roots of their hair -- though that might be the suds of that mental masturbation they thought was scalp massage. Don't listen to the twits, don't believe what twits believe, but instead increase your society's greatness, your health and your wealth, the purity of your essence, the diminishment of antidemocratic sluttiness until it's quite gone, and enhance your sexual desirability.

Assume the Democrats, demagogues that they are, are this time's confederacy of dunces.
__________________
Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.
Urbane Guerrilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:17 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.