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Old 06-05-2004, 01:40 AM   #46
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Maybe they want the eagle to have the right to choose as well?
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Old 06-05-2004, 12:14 PM   #47
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People aren't endangered, bald eagles are.
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Old 06-05-2004, 12:33 PM   #48
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nicely put syc.

Not to mention I haven't seen anyone argue that the bald eagle shouldn't have the right to step on it's own egg.
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Old 06-05-2004, 12:44 PM   #49
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I personally find it interesting how some folks who are for the death penalty are against abortion.
throw 'em back. get 'em when they're bigger?
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Old 06-05-2004, 12:50 PM   #50
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Oh shit...that was funny.
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Old 06-05-2004, 01:06 PM   #51
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People aren't endangered, bald eagles are.
No, they aren't.

Eagles were downgraded from endangered to threatened a couple of years ago.

This year they were removed from "threatened" status.

They're back to being run-of-the-mill birds of prey, in a legal sense.
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Old 06-05-2004, 01:15 PM   #52
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throw 'em back. get 'em when they're bigger?

Must be a fisherman thing...
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Old 06-05-2004, 10:54 PM   #53
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This year they were removed from "threatened" status.
Not yet.
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Old 06-05-2004, 11:27 PM   #54
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I suppose I should read more than the first statement in a thread before replying...but you're right, it is murder, been twisted into a "right". Why you would want this right is beyond me, why you would practice this right sickens me.
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Old 06-05-2004, 11:50 PM   #55
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Mine is when neo-cortical activity begins. At that point sentience is initially possible, marking the difference between man and animal, the point at which conscious thought is possible.
Mine is when life begins. You have to draw a line right? I'm pretty much a live and let live kind of guy 'til we get to this issue. Every life is precious, even Sycamore who most people wish was aborted (I'm just yanking your chain Syc...you're a great example) is a wonderful, unigue human. We can't, we shouldn't play god.

I don't recall the exact numbers, but aren't MILLIONS aborted every year here in the US? That's awful damn close to being you or me, your wife or husband, your best friend being a puddle in a trash bag. Besides millions of young girls having to live with that simple procedure, that awful fact for life.
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Old 06-05-2004, 11:57 PM   #56
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We play God in various ways every single day. Abortion is just another of those ways. As I see it, until it's born, it's fair game.
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Old 06-05-2004, 11:57 PM   #57
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Well, don't just limit it to fertilized eggs. With scientific advances, every single cell can be a potential human life.
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Old 06-06-2004, 12:00 AM   #58
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We play God in various ways every single day. Abortion is just another of those ways. As I see it, until it's born, it's fair game.
That's pretty cold Syc. Do you mean it?
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Old 06-06-2004, 12:05 AM   #59
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Well, don't just limit it to fertilized eggs. With scientific advances, every single cell can be a potential human life.
So lets try not to kill it then eh? I hate gnats, they make me crazy, big ass wasps scare the crap outta me, but I go out of my way not to kill just because it's inconvenient to me.

I "release" woodticks for christs sake, I come from a long line of hunters, and I'm good with that, but a deer on the side of the road rotting for no purpose bugs me.
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Old 06-06-2004, 12:15 AM   #60
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Aw shit, I just scratched my arm and killed 400.
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