Yeah maybe you could drive your car on solar

[xoxoxoBruce]

Certainly not, just sit back and write out your last will and testament.
So who will buy them in the next 10 years before they can be trusted?
They won't be close to safe until ALL vehicles are self driving.

[Griff]

I'm surprised at the price. Idiots around here spend numbers like that on their trucks. I don't think Hillbillys will drive them but maybe Ford's will come in at a similar pp.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Yeah, pickups over $100,000 are not all that rare, of course those Tesla numbers are followed by "and up" like the others.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

So who will buy them in the next 10 years before they can be trusted?
They won't be close to safe until ALL vehicles are self driving.

I suspect they'll be safer than human drivers somewhat soon, but part of that will come from driving less agressively, so human drivers will be cutting them off constantly, and part will be because they will give up and transfer control to humans part of the time.


Also, when they do make mistakes, they are likely to be ones that no human would make, so people will me much more freaked out by one robot doing something we find bizarre than by 100 humans rear-ending someone while texting.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

I suspect they'll be safer than human drivers somewhat soon, but part of that will come from driving less agressively, so human drivers will be cutting them off constantly, and part will be because they will give up and transfer control to humans part of the time.

I don't know, all the videos of them self driving seem to be at the speed limit everywhere. On the open roads that's fine (actually a pain in the ass but legal) but in city traffic 25 MPH can be too fast for people to get out of the way.

Also, when they do make mistakes, they are likely to be ones that no human would make, so people will me much more freaked out by one robot doing something we find bizarre than by 100 humans rear-ending someone while texting.

That brings up the other problem, and why 25 can be too fast. They have trouble with people and animals that move after they've determined them to be stationary objects. Hopefully they'll get that figured out before it's all self driving.

I'm not against the principle, it will be an advantage to me someday, I just don't trust them yet. I've seen TomTom and Garmin make too many mistakes and we're talking about situations where 50 ft makes a hell of a difference.

That truck bed cover (I don't know if they call it a tonneau cover, GM does not. A tonneau cover is historically the cover for a retracted roof, but it's been appropriated by aftermarket truck accessory makers), what do you do with it when you have to carry something large? Say a refrigerator that has to stand up.