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[henry quirk]

Originally Posted by Luce

I agree, but my point was that dems are not walking their actions back.

Well, they can't, not without losin' face.

They're in a hard place: can't move forward, can't fall back.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

Well, they can't, not without losin' face.

They're in a hard place: can't move forward, can't fall back.

They can move forward just fine.

They win either way in this situation.

[henry quirk]

Originally Posted by Luce

They can move forward just fine.

They win either way in this situation.

No, they can't.

Movin' forward means impeachin', which they can't do (cuz they got nuthin', sumthin' that would be painfully obvious to everyone once the mess goes senate-side).

Fallin' back means admittin' right now the whole mess is just a horse & pony show, sumthin' that would disappoint the rabid and mebbe cost dems seats.

And my employee sits pretty no matter what, gets another four in the oval.

*shrug*

It is what it is.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

No, they can't.

Movin' forward means impeachin', which they can't do (cuz they got nuthin', sumthin' that would be painfully obvious to everyone once the mess goes senate-side).

Fallin' back means admittin' right now the whole mess is just a horse & pony show, sumthin' that would disappoint the rabid and mebbe cost dems seats.

And my employee sits pretty no matter what, gets another four in the oval.

*shrug*

It is what it is.

Absolutely they can. If they push forward and win, they win.

Even if they push forward and lose, they paint the senate as a rigged jury, and they have their base and moderates happy for the 2020 house elections. Which isn't a solid win, but it is better than being viewed as "too timid", which is how Pelosi lost control of the house back in her 2006 tenure.

The only way they can lose is to withdraw the inquiry.

[henry quirk]

"Absolutely they can. If they push forward and win, they win."

Which, again, is why they won't proceed to an actual impeachment vote: they can't win, cuz they got nuthin'.

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"The only way they can lose is to withdraw the inquiry."

Oh, they lose no matter what. Press forward, fall back, stand still: they lose.

But, as I say up-thread: we'll see.

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"The subject of the investigation has confessed"

See? It's a Rorschach test again: you say he 'confessed' (to some high crime); I say he's just been doin' his job (and has been open and honest about it). We're seein' what we wanna see.

Even if things play out clear through to the senate and are concluded (one way or the other) we'll still see what we want to (cuz this is a 'political' drama, not a 'legal' one).