Hot takes on the Democratic frontrunners

[Griff]

I have no idea who Andy Ngo is. I was responding to the Richard Spencer smear.

[Griff]

So Andy Ngo turns out to be a right-wing Journalist who was beaten by the Antifa. I guess I'm with Yang and Biden on this. I oppose political violence.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by Griff

So Andy Ngo turns out to be a right-wing Journalist who was beaten by the Antifa. I guess I'm with Yang and Biden on this. I oppose political violence.

I am in favor of political violence when it is appropriate.

But Ngo wasn't a victim. He intentionally orchestrated that event, and then lied about his injuries.

[Undertoad]

Let's do this, then. Here's a fair question.

IMO, the losers are the ones who inflict the violence in this scenario. That's my position and it's also the position of rule of law.

So under what conditions, in America, is it acceptable to strike an unarmed diminutive Asian guy standing on the side of the street filming you?

Originally Posted by Luce

But Ngo wasn't a victim. He intentionally orchestrated that event

Please tell us how. He wasn't being provocative... unarmed, non-threatening, not saying a word, not doing anything, just filming them. Do you figure they are allowed to strike him because they didn't like what he showed on his videos, or what he said about them? Be honest.

and then lied about his injuries.

The people using weapons, striking him, causing him to bleed, be taken to the hospital, held overnight, these are all facts. Most of them are on videos that I've personally watched in order to verify what's going on.

That's actually enough for me. I don't need him to have a brain hemorrhage to identify the losers in this scenario, but please, if you know he lied about having a hemorrhage, let us know how you know.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Let's do this, then. Here's a fair question.

IMO, the losers are the ones who inflict the violence in this scenario. That's my position and it's also the position of rule of law.

So under what conditions, in America, is it acceptable to strike an unarmed diminutive Asian guy standing on the side of the street filming you?


Please tell us how. He wasn't being provocative... unarmed, non-threatening, not saying a word, not doing anything, just filming them. Do you figure they are allowed to strike him because they didn't like what he showed on his videos, or what he said about them? Be honest.

If that man is actively conspiring with the people who are out to hurt people, then he is just as guilty and I have no moral issue with it.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...video-surfaces

The Portland Mercury published video on Monday that appears to show him watching the right-wing group Patriot Prayer making plans for a violent clash at a bar, which he did not report or try to stop. The website published a story from "Ben," a pseudonym, who spent two years undercover with Patriot Prayer. Some of the people involved in the brawl now face felony riot charges.

The people using weapons, striking him, causing him to bleed, be taken to the hospital, held overnight, these are all facts. Most of them are on videos that I've personally watched in order to verify what's going on.

I am not disputing the order of events.

That's actually enough for me. I don't need him to have a brain hemorrhage to identify the losers in this scenario, but please, if you know he lied about having a hemorrhage, let us know how you know.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...antifa-877914/

But it wasn’t until Ngo was attacked at the June rally that he truly ascended to the ranks of right-wing media shit-stirrer. “Attacked by antifa. Bleeding. They stole my camera equipment. No police until after. waiting for ambulance . If you have evidence Of attack please help,” he tweeted, later adding that he had been diagnosed at the ER with a brain hemorrhage and that antifa had thrown quick-dry cement milkshakes at him. (This claim was later debunked.) Footage also surfaced on Twitter of Ngo at the rally, being doused with a milkshake and silly string, and getting punched by an antifascist protester.

Link to debunking is provided in the text of the RS article.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by Griff

I have no idea who Andy Ngo is. I was responding to the Richard Spencer smear.

Ngo is basically Spencer with better manners.

And it's not a smear. Yang found out the proudboys and other Spencer fans were sending him money (the reason they were doing that was pretty funny, "the system is fucked for Upstanding White Folks, so we may as well get our $1000"), and he had absolutely no problem with it.

And once you let the poo get on you, it doesn't come off.