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Old 11-09-2019, 04:39 PM   #1
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His hobby is mouthing off about how all things and all circumstances betray and offend tw.
Replies are always based in facts that expose / challenge emotions in so many conclusions. Cited repeatedly is how easily some only use emotions to know something. Saddam's WMDs are a classic example. Mission Accomplished, that resulted, was also based in lies justified by emotions. And the resulting disaster - ignoring phase four planning - was but another perfect example of the emotional - challenged by facts even defined by SzeTzu over 2500 years ago.

Even The Don was elected only because he lies and insults people. That appeals to the emotional.

We went through same with a book on strategic objectives in military strategy. You only read the first chapter and gave up. It was too complicated. And therefore did not realize, so well defined in that book, why America would have to return and fight that war all over again - resulting in most of the 5000 Americans uselessly killed there.

But that is too long for an emotional person who needs everything explained in a soundbyte - a 140 character post.

So you attack the messenger rather than address the topic. Learning reality from so many paragraphs is too hard. Better is to wait for the Central Committee to say what to believe. And that, sir, has always been why we will constantly disagree. I do not wait to be brainwashed by extremist talk show hosts.

Meanwhile, xoxoxBruce has finally attempted to answer one of the questions.
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The reason for it is because a CA tech Billionaire had a sister murdered by an ex-boyfriend who was arrested. A week later ...
The billionaire is a founder of Broadcom. If I remember (from so long ago), his name is Nicholos. His objective is to get a Constitutional Amendment at the Federal level by first getting it implemented in many states.

His objectives are admirable. But the laws (amendments) that he is promoting are too vague, too broad, and too easily used to subvert personal rights. At least that is the analysis by some who use reason to make conclusions. These concepts and principles have been too little discussed to justify and sudden legal change.

It is currently promoted using the same 'we don't need to learn' attitude that justified changing Daylight Savings Time.

The proposal has pros and cons. Both would be discussed by moderates. Unfortunately a citation by sexobon demonstrates a one sided opinion. It does not discuss both pros and cons. And is therefore best ignored as if written by an extremist.

What then follows are so many personal attacks that never answer the questions: Who is pushing all this? And why? What really is the objective? What really is the problem that must be solved?

One can only conclude that most have opinions but could not even answer those simple questions. And that was the purpose of those questions. Separate moderates (who learn facts before having opinions) from extremists (who make conclusions from and justify their attacks only using emotion).

Not surprising, so many cheapshots came from the usual suspects - who refused to answer any of those questions. Apparently because they could not.

Curious is why UG did not immediately join in the usual personal attacks. That is expected from people who only want to 'wreck shit'.

Since this is so long, I expect the usual disparaging comments devoid of any honest discussion. And find it curious that neither moderates nor progressives post in these discussions anymore.
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Old 11-09-2019, 05:08 PM   #2
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I did my own research and posted what I did up-thread because of what I found.

I was cryptic, not uninformed.
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Old 11-15-2019, 01:19 AM   #3
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Curious is why UG did not immediately join in the usual personal attacks. That is expected from people who only want to 'wreck shit'.
It is simply accounted for: you do not have an accurate understanding of me, and you never will -- as an exertion of the emotional thinking you have always denied on the one hand yet always evidence on the other. You own the emotional thinking, and it is yours in perpetuity. You desperately want my character to be as low as your own. I'm not sorry to inform you that I have more self-respect than that.

You are completely summed up by your bitternesses and prejudices and idées fixes. None here think of you as anything but a piñata. You demand that the world offend and injure you. Sure enough... compliance happens, happened, will further happen.

You'll die alone. Having voted Democratic one last time.
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