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Old 10-30-2019, 08:51 AM   #1
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MIT Engineers develop new way to remove carbon from air
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Old 10-30-2019, 08:55 PM   #2
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That is only part of a solution. The stuff still must be put somewhere.
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Old 10-31-2019, 09:24 PM   #3
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They don't have to put it anywhere they're grabbing from the air to use for things like carbonating drinks and enriching greenhouse air, rather than creating new carbon dioxide from fossil fuel.
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Old 11-01-2019, 09:43 AM   #4
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They don't have to put it anywhere they're grabbing from the air to use for things like carbonating drinks and enriching greenhouse air, rather than creating new carbon dioxide from fossil fuel.
That is almost zero compared to CO2 that is produced. Many of those products simply put CO2 back in the atmosphere - where those products are already extracting CO2 from. That does nothing to address rising CO2 levels.

Once extracted, CO2 must be put somewhere else - not back in the atmosphere.
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Old 11-01-2019, 10:06 AM   #5
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We should turn it into coal and bury it in the ground.
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Old 11-02-2019, 03:06 AM   #6
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That is almost zero compared to CO2 that is produced. Many of those products simply put CO2 back in the atmosphere - where those products are already extracting CO2 from. That does nothing to address rising CO2 levels.

Once extracted, CO2 must be put somewhere else - not back in the atmosphere.
The point is they are preventing these industries who use a LOT of carbon dioxide which will end up in the air, from making new carbon dioxide out of fossil fuels.
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Old 11-02-2019, 02:27 PM   #7
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The point is they are preventing these industries who use a LOT of carbon dioxide which will end up in the air, from making new carbon dioxide out of fossil fuels.
Replace that 200 Hp engine that only need produce 8 Hp most of the time. Then massive amounts of gasoline are not burned only to create heat. IOW solve the problem at its source.

That will reduce CO2. But what remains is another problem. Where to put massive amounts of captured CO2.

Currently the oceans have been absorbing massive amounts. Deep ocean studies suggest that may now be diminishing or even ending as CO2 absorbed many decades ago might be coming back to the surface in future decades.

I believe a tunnel in Norway captures exhaust gases and pumps it into expired oil wells. Another solution that still needs plenty of what makes a patriotic American - innovation. The amount of CO2 that must be put somewhere (generated uselessly even by cars) is significantly larger.

Plenty of innovation is necessary. But we have a president who is anti-America. Who loves to subvert innovation in everything he can - including this CO2 problem. He only wants to 'wreck shit'. Since that is what he has done his entire adult life.
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Old 11-02-2019, 03:42 PM   #8
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Replace that 200 Hp engine that only need produce 8 Hp most of the time.
So, you would have no problem with your car only being capable of, say, 10 mph. And taking forever to get there? Have any idea how much products would cost if the truck what brung 'em takes FOR FUCKING EVER TO DELIVER SAID PRODUCTS. What happens when that 8 hp truck carrying 50,000 lbs comes to a hill? Or a mountain?

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Then massive amounts of gasoline are not burned only to create heat.
I'm not sure you understand how an internal combustion engine works. Maybe it's me, I thought the gasoline was burned to make the pistons go up and down...

I've been cold in cars with gasoline burning engines. Guess the weren't burning massive enough amounts of gasoline.
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