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...bio-automation, organic machinery. | 1 | 14.29% | |
...sumthin’ more than bio-automation, not only organic machinery. | 6 | 85.71% | |
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10-15-2019, 12:02 PM | #136 | |
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According to her, she doesn't think in words. Especially-- NOT English, her native (spoken) language.
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10-15-2019, 12:47 PM | #137 |
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Emotion is the physical chemical reaction we have that is caused by thoughts we think.
The non verbal thought I was pointing to is more of a leap we make mentally that just clicks. Then we go back and verify the accuracy. I do it all the time. Like we have 2 thinking sources. It's all very scientific.
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10-15-2019, 01:25 PM | #138 |
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The drummer Jojo Mayer talks about the mental micro-space where we’ve already done a thing and we’re now reacting to something that wasn’t intentional. He calls it “the space between zero and one” and it’s the most accurate description of the “source” of creativity that I’ve ever heard. If you have 20 minutes, it’s a really good TED Talk.
What does science say? There are imaging studies that show the parts of our brain involved with intending to do a thing activation AFTER the part of our brain that does the thing. We intend it because we already did it. Counterintuitive, right?
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10-15-2019, 04:16 PM | #139 |
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That was neat.
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10-15-2019, 04:42 PM | #140 |
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Cool, thanks for watching. This guy, I don't know if it's apparent from this video, is one of the most technically advanced drummers, like ever. He's developed a bunch of techniques to, apparently, manipulate physics.
Like "push/pull" --getting a note going both ways.
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10-15-2019, 05:13 PM | #141 |
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I'm gonna check out Nerve
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10-15-2019, 06:36 PM | #142 |
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"According to her, she doesn't think in words. Especially-- NOT English, her native (spoken) language."
As I consider it: it's probably more accurate to say thnkin' is done by way of assigning (then recognizing) symbols/placeholders and accessing a shifting cloud of associated symbols/placeholders. ## "Emotion is the physical chemical reaction we have that is caused by thoughts we think." I think feeling (reaction) precedes thinking (consideration and response). # "The non verbal thought I was pointing to is more of a leap we make mentally that just clicks. Then we go back and verify the accuracy." Intuition: what your gut tells you. # "I do it all the time." Me too. # "Like we have 2 thinking sources." Just a different way of processing information. # "It's all very scientific." Mebbe so. ## "There are imaging studies that show the parts of our brain involved with intending to do a thing activation AFTER the part of our brain that does the thing. We intend it because we already did it. Counterintuitive, right?" Libet. https://mindmatters.ai/2019/09/was-f...just-debunked/
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10-15-2019, 07:03 PM | #143 |
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Emotion results from thoughts. Some thoughts result from mood (or pain body).
Like, if you're horny, you think about sex. But if you just decide to think about sex, it might make you horny. Might not. Goes both ways. Like Flint.
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10-15-2019, 07:37 PM | #144 |
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10-16-2019, 06:57 AM | #145 | |
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03-13-2020, 09:12 PM | #146 |
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So, large parts of what I've always said about the subject I was obsessing on in this thread was just presented back to me by the benevolent AI algorithms at Hulu, in the form of a monologue by Nick Offerman in the first episode of Devs
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03-14-2020, 05:25 AM | #147 |
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Human's describe themselves, "sumthin’ more than bio-automation, not only organic machinery."
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04-20-2020, 05:43 PM | #148 | |
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04-20-2020, 07:59 PM | #149 |
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