personhood

henry quirk · 10-15-2019, 11:46 AM

"Do you think.... Because when we think, we think in words.... That the language you know has a deterministic effect on the thoughts you can think? The ideas you can grasp..."

I think a large vocabulary can broaden or widen or nuance thinking, but I don't think it determines it any more than a small one does.

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"Can you think without words? Intuitively."

I think some dogs I've known have done it exactly that way. Might not be possible for us: we're symbol-makers and -assigners, signifiers of the world, semiotic beings.

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"Or are both happening within us?"

If you count emotion as thinking without words: yes.

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10-15-2019, 11:46 AM	#23
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"Do you think.... Because when we think, we think in words.... That the language you know has a deterministic effect on the thoughts you can think? The ideas you can grasp..." I think a large vocabulary can broaden or widen or nuance thinking, but I don't think it determines it any more than a small one does. # "Can you think without words? Intuitively." I think some dogs I've known have done it exactly that way. Might not be possible for us: we're symbol-makers and -assigners, signifiers of the world, semiotic beings. # "Or are both happening within us?" If you count emotion as thinking without words: yes. __________________ like the other guy sez: 'not really back, blah-blah-blah...'

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