Deja Vue. Another defeat.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

The most knowledgeable analysis I've seen of it has it that the Kurds are no sort of monolith, but there are approximately four major factions, with about three of the Kurdish factions at odds with a fourth. This fourth faction, with which the US is not in a friendly relationship owing to them being a pack of Communists, is the faction the Turks say they are assaulting, and that they're terrorists.

Meanwhile, the US is friendlier with the other three Kurdish factions; we're more supportive of Iraqi Kurds, then other Kurds, in Syria, in a descending order.

But of course, tw's prejudiced existence prevents such knowledge from ever illuminating his dark recesses. 3-plus percent economic growth for quarter after quarter after quarter and the lowest unemployment rates in sixty solid years across each and every known demographic, and positions now so abundant that employers are struggling to fill them -- there are help-wanted signs up all over my town -- all this in two years, that's utterly foolish, hm?

[tw]

As usual, extremists post insults. And now lie about what tw has said. But that is what Nazis also did to gain power and commit genocide.

The scumbag (that Nazis, KKK, and White Supremacists love) decided to withdrawal 150 American troops so that Turkey can occupy northern Syria. Leaders know how to manipulate The Don. They praise his ego. Then Erdoğan told The Donald that he would repopulate N Syria with Syrian refugees in his country. So Americans can leave.

Without consulting even one informed American, The Don then created another massive American defeat.

Obvious was Erdoğan's strategy. He regards all Kurds as terrorists - evil like Daesh. As soon as a few hundreds Americans left, he attacked the Kurds everywhere. Cutting off Kurd main supply highways across Kurd protected regions in Syria.

He then 'accidentally' fired artillery shells about 100 meters from a known American base. So that 1000 more American soldiers (working with the Kurds) would leave immediately. Would abandon their Kurdish allies.

The Don is so dumb to even give Putin but another victory. Russian reputation for being a trusted ally in the Middle East has massively increased in the past three years. The Kurds need protection. The Kurds (like all other close American allies) now know Americans are scumbags who promise protection and then run away. Our wacko extremists here love that behavior. That is the new American reputation - approved by the Cellar wackos.

Kurds went to people who would keep their promises - the Russians. Syrian troops are now moving in on the Kurds. Only protection left for the Kurds - once a closest American ally - were clearly stabbed in the back by an American egotist and his wacko extremists supporters in the Cellar. (People who insult to avoid admitting to a another massive American defeat.) Trump has created another massive American defeat (similar to what Cheney, et al did in Afghanistan and in the Mission Accomplished war).

Wacko extremists in The Cellar praise The Don for also releasing some 11,000 ISIS soldiers and allies. Daesh terrorist attacks are ongoing. Extremist here say that is also good.

Of the so many interests active in Syria, only American allies are the losers. As Americans pull out, Russians and their allies move in to fill another American created vacuum. The Don (and his wacko extremist supporters in The Cellar) apparently love it when America is defeated. And then, like good right wing extremists, spin it into a victory. They are so extremists as to believe this massive American defeat is good. It is so easy to brainwash extremists.

[henry quirk]

"How dare he actually deliver on his promise not to have anymore of our precious warriors shipped home in boxes after getting killed on battlefields we can’t even pronounce, while refereeing conflicts that began long before America was a thing, in campaigns without any kind of coherent objective?"

impeach 'em

[tw]

How fast did Americans surrender and run from Syria? Russians now report abandoned American based with tents still standing, refrigerators still stocked with food, and some plates with half eaten meals.

That is how quickly this president ordered American soldiers to abandon the Kurds and run away.

Russian soldiers are tweeting pictures of themselves in abandoned American tents where the Americans ran away only hours earlier. 40% of Americans still approve of the scumbag president - whose only purpose is to entertain his ego and enrich himself.

He even told Kim that it is OK to develop missiles that can attack S Korean and Japanese cities. When Japan's Prime Minister Abe confronted The Don with this American surrender, The Don dismissed him as irrelevant. Nice way to treat (mock, insult) a closest American ally. Since The Donald likes dictators like Kim, Xi, and Putin. They inflate his ego.

[Griff]

This was addressed in the debate last night. Tulsi was more for just getting out because these regime change wars are and have been a poorly conceived nightmare. Mayor Pete was more nuanced, he recognized that the origins of these wars is dubious but our abandonment of allies is utterly destructive of America's place in the world and pretty horrifying on the ground. So yeah, we need to get out but let's not make the world much worse place by doing it badly.