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Old 05-31-2019, 05:22 PM   #11
xoxoxoBruce
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Originally Posted by henry quirk View Post
"It wouldn't have to be a war persay"

I'm inclined to think otherwise.


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No, Bruce, the war isn't against the corps. It's against the mechanism used by the corps, the machine that extends protection and privilege to the corps.
OK, but it's the corps wanting to do evil that causes them to buy politicians to help them screw other corps and/or the public, plus protect them. That's the root of the evil and that evil infects the politicians(and bureaucrats) that abet them. If the corps just wanted free enterprise they wouldn't do anything and your description of simple enforceable rules would work.

An example:
Medicare is far and away the largest purchaser of drugs in the world, but the law says they shall not negotiate price. Why did the politicians vote in favor of that restriction? Because they're toadies of big pharma, but the evil didn't come from the legislators, they're just errand boys.

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Again: in a true free market (free enterprise) the state doesn't favor the rich cuz -- bein' severely limited -- it can't favor the rich (or the poor or anyone).

You keep pointin' to the corps as the root of evil while I keep pointin' to the state.

We're talkin' past each other.
I still think the corps are from where all evil flows. I know, hyperbolic.

But you're right about congress enabling them, and must be cleaned out. Unfortunately that can't happen when people are fat and happy so the maximum energy they'll expend is to pick a party and vote for whoever the party endorses... when they bother to vote.

My father got the nod from the Republicans and was reelected every 3 years near automatically for near 20 years.
Then he pissed off somebody and didn't get the nod so ran as an independant and won, but the next election they didn't take for granted the nod was enough, and really worked hard enough to beat him. Even back in the '70s party was everything.

So how do you keep the state/government from making these restrictions? Pass a law? That requires congress to make the law and they can just as easily throw it out. It would take a complete change of government style and that requires a new constitution. I think if you proposed that, most people would stick with the devil they know.

You know, you're not near as crazy as led us to believe.
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