Why we fight. Guilt?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Can you back that up, Jag?

The Arab league has compiled a very nice listing ot the West's betrayals of the Arab world. An interesting page to look at is this one which is a listing of Arab martyrs:

http://www.arableagueonline.org/arab...=225&page_no=8

Cruise around on that site for a while and then tell me just how co-operative you think ANY Arab nation is going to be.

[xoxoxoBruce]

very nice listing ot the West's betrayals of the Arab world

All I could find was the Pals and Jews debacle which makes your statement I quoted, highly inflated.:p

OK, try this:

http://blog.newstandardnews.net/iraq...es/000423.html

And what we in the West need to understand is how deeply the Arabs continue to feel about the whole Palestinian issue. In their minds it is a constant reminder of Western betrayal, whether we think of it that way or not. And I guess I should have stated that when I said "very nice list of betrayal" that I meant from the Arab's standpoint, which is not necessarily my own.

[xoxoxoBruce]

So Jamails whining about traffic jams and humvees parked next to cemetaries, portrays "the West's betrayals of the Arab world"?

Oh, I don't know Bruce. I'm just trying to get people to step out of their Western mindset and look at the whole thing as an Arab might. I'm not saying that I think they are right - they seem pretty fanatic to me - but I guess I can sort of understand why they might feel as they do. I mean when you look at those sites and follow some of the links, do you get the impression that we are making any progress towards winning them over? I don't, but maybe I'm missing something.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I have no doubt the Arabs think differently, have different customs, and don't understand or like us very much. My point was that "the West's betrayals of the Arab world" is a pretty broad brushed and grandiose statement to apply to the incidents you've cited. Bush Sr's inciting Iraquis to revolt , after the first Gulf War, then leaving them to swing in the breeze, would be one action that would come under your description, In my opinion.