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Old 02-24-2019, 11:03 AM   #1
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Well, when ice freezes, it expands. If the outside ring on ice were to freeze first, then when the inner core froze, I could see it being forced to push up instead of out.

I'm guessing those are pretty light rocks, though. If they were heavy at all, the expansion would fracture the outside ring, and no lift would happen at all.
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Old 02-24-2019, 12:02 PM   #2
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Well, when ice freezes, it expands. If the outside ring on ice were to freeze first, then when the inner core froze, I could see it being forced to push up instead of out.

I'm guessing those are pretty light rocks, though. If they were heavy at all, the expansion would fracture the outside ring, and no lift would happen at all.
This sounds reasonable to me.

I have seen ice cubes in the ice tray in the freezer with little spikes in the center of the the cube sticking up like the tops of Hershey kisses.

No rocks though.

Not just me, apparently.
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I have seen ice cubes in the ice tray in the freezer with little spikes in the center of the the cube sticking up like the tops of Hershey kisses.
I know that thing exact. Even documented it, somewhere here on Teh Cellar.

Usually with hot water in the cube makers.
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Old 02-24-2019, 12:23 PM   #4
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Yes, I've seen that in ice cube trays and other containers, but it's always constricted.
Sorry, about the comma/period mix up. It's funny, when I wrote that I thought to myself, I thought it was bigger than that.
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...I thought to myself, I thought it was bigger than that.
Me, too. I had to go see.
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Old 02-24-2019, 02:52 PM   #6
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I should have but I've learned in the past it's dangerous to wander off in the middle of a post.
Now why in hell did I come into this room???
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Old 02-24-2019, 04:27 PM   #7
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Yes, I've seen that in ice cube trays and other containers, but it's always constricted.

Sorry, about the comma/period mix up. It's funny, when I wrote that I thought to myself, I thought it was bigger than that.


And the little warmed spot of water in Baikal is constricted by the surrounding ice. No?


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No, you can see the is flat ice or a groove depression around the rock. as the melted water freezes there's nothing to constrict it. the rock is considerably higher.
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Old 03-06-2019, 07:58 AM   #9
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Awhile back I posted somewhere in the Cellar an illustration that was a cross section of the Great Lakes. Now somebody has taken that illustration and
added Lake Baikal. The height to width ratio in the illustration is way off, but what we're interested in, the elevation of the surface and depth from there
to the bottom, are cool.
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