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wolf · 05-20-2004, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by DanaC
She is? oh. Apologies to all my fellow feminists but maybe she has PMT.

Don't even fucking go there.

Women are able to get pissed off exclusive of having or expecting their menses.

Playing to the cliche/stereotype is not appropriate, and certainly something I did not expect to hear from you, you stoned, socialist, asshat.

Happy Monkey · 05-20-2004, 01:28 PM

What are cliches and stereotypes for, if not to play to?

ladysycamore · 05-20-2004, 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by OnyxCougar
Why is it that whenever a woman is bitchy, it's chalked up to PMS? That irritates the shit outta me.

Precisely. Even when I had a period, I didn't have PMS that badly. If I was pissed, then I was pissed, and not because of some goddamned hormone imbalance.

Bascially it boils down to this folks: not everything you say is going to be taken in the context that you mean it all of the time. You may be hitting someone on a day that they are not up to "playing around" (and god knows I have days like that..just ask Syc).

DanaC · 05-20-2004, 06:23 PM

What can I say

I get really bad moodswings and hormone problems atthat time. Its usually what clues me in to when I am due ( cause I dont pay much attentionto calendars) The first I know about it is usually I have launched a completely unwarranted atttack at someone close to me and am already trying to hold back the tears....Just the way I am, so thats where my mind leapt to. If thats not your experience of it then you would likely just see it as a stereotype. It is a stereotype but that doesnt mean some us dont have that experience.

lumberjim · 05-20-2004, 06:52 PM

the thing i always found interesting about PMS is that it is a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts. by identifying it and giving it a name....PMS....we are perpetuating it's existence. Even though most women will kill you slowly if you accuse her of suffering from it, they have no problem talking about it when it's not them.

and stop talking about menstruation in a thread with my name in the title.....i think i'm starting to develop breasts.

DanaC · 05-20-2004, 06:58 PM

Mostly the problem comes in when a woman is accused of or assumed to be menstruating because she has expressed annoyance/anger/snappiness/emotional distress etc usually assumed by men ( not always) and usually for no other reason than that the woman has engaged in an overt display of negative emotion. ...This of course has been extended to include political passion or frustration ....

if on the other hand a woman is displaying what appear to uncharacteristically explosive behaviours and responses to situations and stimuli that havent changed significantly there are a number of possible causes and PMS is on the list.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-20-2004, 07:10 PM

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and stop talking about menstruation in a thread with my name in the title.....

Why, rag on LJ works.

blue · 05-20-2004, 07:29 PM

I'd give an arm for an easy exuse for being a assmunch once in a while, and 1 every month?!?

Sign me up.....geez, I already pick up the maxi pacs anyhow.

No seriously..sign me up...this couldn't possibly go wrong, right?

05-20-2004, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by wolf

Don't even fucking go there.

Women are able to get pissed off exclusive of having or expecting their menses.

Playing to the cliche/stereotype is not appropriate, and certainly something I did not expect to hear from you, you stoned, socialist, asshat.

Jeez, Wolf, a bit touchy today, are we? I always figured the whole PMS (PMT) thing was a crock, so I've never taken the mention of it very seriously. You give the syndrome more power than it deserves by blowing up that way over it. No hard feelings or anything, that's just how I see it.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-20-2004, 08:21 PM

I makes sense, if you don't feel well physically, it could alter your mood, so there's probably some basis. But, terribly overused as an explanation/insult. That being said, I have known a couple of women that do an absolute Jekyll/Hyde, like clockwork.

Clodfobble · 05-20-2004, 09:31 PM

I'll admit I go pretty wacko, but instead of getting bitchy I get emotional/depressed. Curled-up-on-the-bed-crying-for-no-reason depressed. Doesn't happen every single month, but the pattern is undeniable. Usually lasts about two days and then it's gone.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-21-2004, 03:29 AM

Sometimes, I find I'm in a bad mood and I realize there's no reason for it. Then I check the calendar and find out it's full moon. A soon as I realize that, I'm OK for the rest of the day. Yeah, weird.

DanaC · 05-21-2004, 08:40 AM

*nods* I find as soon as I realise where I am at in the month and that that is likely the cause of my depression/underlying sense of rage I am usually ok after that. It's when I am flying off the handle or feeling crushingly depressed and dont have anything to explain it that it is difficult to handle. Once i know what is behind it I can ride it out without too much unpleasantness

Heh. I had a next door neighbour years ago used to get really odd and aggressive around te lunar month. Was unnerving. He would be this really sweet guy most of the time ( in his late 70's) but then round about the full moon he'd become insulting, verbally abusive and downright unreasonable. Used to drive his wife loco

Yelof · 05-21-2004, 09:16 AM

Right now my mood is pretty shit, caused in part by the hot heavy high pressure weather we are having, it gets to me somehow, also I don't sleep well. Anytime soon now an electrical storm is going to start and I will feel better.

kerosene · 05-21-2004, 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by lumberjim
i think i'm starting to develop breasts.

Those are from my CD, remember?

05-20-2004, 01:28 PM	#32
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05-20-2004, 06:52 PM	#35
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	the thing i always found interesting about PMS is that it is a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts. by identifying it and giving it a name....PMS....we are perpetuating it's existence. Even though most women will kill you slowly if you accuse her of suffering from it, they have no problem talking about it when it's not them. and stop talking about menstruation in a thread with my name in the title.....i think i'm starting to develop breasts. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

05-20-2004, 07:29 PM	#38
blue Operations Operative Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northern WI Posts: 739	I'd give an arm for an easy exuse for being a assmunch once in a while, and 1 every month?!? Sign me up.....geez, I already pick up the maxi pacs anyhow. No seriously..sign me up...this couldn't possibly go wrong, right? __________________ If you spot a tornado, always remember to point at it, yell "tornado!", and run like hell. Last edited by blue; 05-20-2004 at 07:32 PM.

05-20-2004, 08:21 PM	#40
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I makes sense, if you don't feel well physically, it could alter your mood, so there's probably some basis. But, terribly overused as an explanation/insult. That being said, I have known a couple of women that do an absolute Jekyll/Hyde, like clockwork. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-21-2004, 03:29 AM	#42
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Sometimes, I find I'm in a bad mood and I realize there's no reason for it. Then I check the calendar and find out it's full moon. A soon as I realize that, I'm OK for the rest of the day. Yeah, weird. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-20-2004, 06:23 PM	#34
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	What can I say I get really bad moodswings and hormone problems atthat time. Its usually what clues me in to when I am due ( cause I dont pay much attentionto calendars) The first I know about it is usually I have launched a completely unwarranted atttack at someone close to me and am already trying to hold back the tears....Just the way I am, so thats where my mind leapt to. If thats not your experience of it then you would likely just see it as a stereotype. It is a stereotype but that doesnt mean some us dont have that experience.

05-20-2004, 06:58 PM	#36
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Mostly the problem comes in when a woman is accused of or assumed to be menstruating because she has expressed annoyance/anger/snappiness/emotional distress etc usually assumed by men ( not always) and usually for no other reason than that the woman has engaged in an overt display of negative emotion. ...This of course has been extended to include political passion or frustration .... if on the other hand a woman is displaying what appear to uncharacteristically explosive behaviours and responses to situations and stimuli that havent changed significantly there are a number of possible causes and PMS is on the list.

05-20-2004, 09:31 PM	#41
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	I'll admit I go pretty wacko, but instead of getting bitchy I get emotional/depressed. Curled-up-on-the-bed-crying-for-no-reason depressed. Doesn't happen every single month, but the pattern is undeniable. Usually lasts about two days and then it's gone.

05-21-2004, 08:40 AM	#43
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	nods I find as soon as I realise where I am at in the month and that that is likely the cause of my depression/underlying sense of rage I am usually ok after that. It's when I am flying off the handle or feeling crushingly depressed and dont have anything to explain it that it is difficult to handle. Once i know what is behind it I can ride it out without too much unpleasantness Heh. I had a next door neighbour years ago used to get really odd and aggressive around te lunar month. Was unnerving. He would be this really sweet guy most of the time ( in his late 70's) but then round about the full moon he'd become insulting, verbally abusive and downright unreasonable. Used to drive his wife loco Last edited by DanaC; 05-21-2004 at 08:43 AM.

05-21-2004, 09:16 AM	#44
Yelof neither here nor there Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 179	Right now my mood is pretty shit, caused in part by the hot heavy high pressure weather we are having, it gets to me somehow, also I don't sleep well. Anytime soon now an electrical storm is going to start and I will feel better.

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