New 9/11 pictures from the air

[Pete Zicato]

Taken from a police helicopter. Really shows the scale of the destruction.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8508817.stm

[TheMercenary]

Amazing. Chilling. How quickly people forget.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Amazing. Chilling. How quickly people forget.

Nonsense. Just because people disagree with the fed gov reaction doesn't mean they forget. Some folks, like me, simply draw completely different lessons from the event than you did.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Griff

Nonsense. Just because people disagree with the fed gov reaction doesn't mean they forget. Some folks, like me, simply draw completely different lessons from the event than you did.

What lessons do you think I drew from the event.

[Pete Zicato]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

What lessons do you think I drew from the event.

Ah. We're back to guessing games.

All right. I'll play your little game. What lesson(s) did you draw from the event?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato

What lesson(s) did you draw from the event?

I am really more interested in what you think I believe. It is much easier to dispell the assumptions. I have made it evident on this forum and many others that I felt that the invasion into Iraq was an error of a huge scale.

[Griff]

Believing in creative destruction, you supported an attempted world changing military response in an uninvolved country instead of a more appropriate policing first, military second response to Al Queda. This stems from your world-view of America as an innocent babe-in-the-woods rather than a meddler overseas. I saw a squandered opportunity to turn tragedy into moral authority and a failing commitment to rule of law. Obama is trying to take the Justice Dept route now but it is late in the game.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Griff

Believing in creative destruction, you supported an attempted world changing military response in an uninvolved country instead of a more appropriate policing first, military second response to Al Queda.

False. You have no proof that I supported the military response, I mean other than I was doing a my job as a senior military officer at the time.

This stems from your world-view of America as an innocent babe-in-the-woods rather than a meddler overseas.

False, I have no such view.

I saw a squandered opportunity to turn tragedy into moral authority and a failing commitment to rule of law.

I would agree in part.

Obama is trying to take the Justice Dept route now but it is late in the game.

I guess that depends on whether you believe it was a police action or a military operation. I support that the later was in force.

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Amazing. Chilling. How quickly people forget.

Which people are you talking about, exactly?

I can't think of anyone who would have forgotten about that day, except maybe 10 year olds.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

Which people are you talking about, exactly?

I can't think of anyone who would have forgotten about that day, except maybe 10 year olds.

I guess it was sort of a general statement that I believe that we are still an extremely vulnerable nation and need to keep our guard up. Sort of *sigh* moment for me. I think our nation is not as focused on the issue as we use to be, but that could just be me. We are currently obsessed with our other issues and I fear people may be taking their eye off the ball.

[bluecuracao]

I am relieved that people are not obsessed with this issue any more. It was stressful and aggravating living in DC after 9/11, always being reminded by the news and flashing signs that the city was at Threat Level Orange.

They could still be at level orange for all I know; we moved away in 2004. But no one was really taking it seriously by then, because after you got your stash of duct tape and plastic tarps, what were you supposed to do about it, anyway?

[tw]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

They could still be at level orange for all I know; we moved away in 2004. But no one was really taking it seriously by then, because after you got your stash of duct tape and plastic tarps, what were you supposed to do about it, anyway?

Those Orange alert were more often issued when the politics needed it. Eventually that became an open conflict between Tom Ridge and the neocons. So the neocons drove Tom Ridge out as director of Homeland Security - simply because he would not issue any more Orange alerts on phony information.

[classicman]

They haven't forgotten. But remember that its still Bush's fault.

[TheMercenary]

[TheMercenary]

One Day...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pehz98Vygs