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Old 10-31-2008, 11:56 AM   #1
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TheMercenary, I think all those things are going to happen regardless of the outcome of the election - in fact, they're already happening.
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Old 10-31-2008, 11:58 AM   #2
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TheMercenary, I think all those things are going to happen regardless of the outcome of the election - in fact, they're already happening.
You may be right. When I read the reports of what AGI and many of the banks are doing with the Bail Out Cash it makes me think they are still not being appropriately regulated.
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Old 10-31-2008, 11:57 AM   #3
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"The results of the searches were not publicly released and remain confidential, she wrote."

Really? So how did that info make it to the press???? Hmmmmm. How is that we are talking about those details now????? Hmmmmm. Seems like someone on the inside with an axe to grid got the info out to all of us so we could talk about it.
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:13 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 View Post
I could write your posts before you do. I'm more inclined to actually listen to Merc, because he does tend to say more than "look at how you suck...your posts suck, hey everyone can I get some validation that t-dub sucks because I am like a little dog in the tall grass always jumping up to see what everyone else is doing."

Oh sorry - didn't read this as I still have you on ignore ad you and I agreed to do not too long ago. I stuck by it. Guess you didn't. Anyway...

Yeh thats pretty funny, comparing me to the little dog jumping up for attention. Hmm, I'm not half the attention whore you are deary. Please put me back on ignore like we agreed. kthxbai.
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:17 PM   #5
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I could write your posts before you do. I'm more inclined to actually listen to Merc, because he does tend to say more than "look at how you suck...your posts suck, hey everyone can I get some validation that t-dub sucks because I am like a little dog in the tall grass always jumping up to see what everyone else is doing."

Oh sorry - didn't read this as I still have you on ignore ad you and I agreed to do not too long ago. I stuck by it. Guess you didn't. Anyway...

Yeh thats pretty funny, comparing me to the little dog jumping up for attention. Hmm, I'm not half the attention whore you are deary. Please put me back on ignore like we agreed. kthxbai.

Bwaaahaaahaaa...you weren't ignoring. HA. I knowed it!

Oh, I am an attention whore. That isn't what I was saying about you, deerie: I was saying you are a namby pamby little man who wouldn't take a poo if you weren't completely sure at least one other person on earth poos as well. I guess your poor reading skills are why you have been asking since April "oh dear me, who should I vote for, what should I do? Where are my smelling salts?"


kthxbai!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:34 PM   #6
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I am not telling you that you are stupid. I am just having an exchange of ideas to maybe get you to understand where I am coming from in my thinking. I did not vote for Obama or McCain. But I voted. I don't want to see any group suffer. I just think that people are being sold a bill of goods that will be impossible for Obama to deliver on. I will be around to remind him and his supporters of the difference between what you were told you were promised and what you got in it's place.
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:37 PM   #7
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I think every president since the beginning has sold a bill of goods they can't ALWAYS NECESSARILY deliver, at least the ones who had to campaign. Remember "read my lips...blah blah blah"?

They deliver what they can, what they can get through congress or whatever, but they have always and will always present it as "this is what I'm gonna do." THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. And I, at least, vote for the one whose IDEAS most closely match the things I find important. THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

Can I have an itemized list of any of the past 10 president's "campaign" promises and how many of those promises actually came to fruition?

Obama is no different, just because you don't like him. I seriously hope you don't point for 4 years, because then I will have to ignore you.
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:41 PM   #8
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Obama is no different, just because you don't like him. I seriously hope you don't point for 4 years, because then I will have to ignore you.
He hasn't won yet, and the Democrats have a long record of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Just sayin'...
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:54 PM   #9
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He hasn't won yet, and the Democrats have a long record of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Just sayin'...
And by snatching you mean stealing, right?
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:45 PM   #10
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I think every president since the beginning has sold a bill of goods they can't ALWAYS NECESSARILY deliver, at least the ones who had to campaign. Remember "read my lips...blah blah blah"?

They deliver what they can, what they can get through congress or whatever, but they have always and will always present it as "this is what I'm gonna do." THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. And I, at least, vote for the one whose IDEAS most closely match the things I find important. THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

Can I have an itemized list of any of the past 10 president's "campaign" promises and how many of those promises actually came to fruition?

Obama is no different, just because you don't like him. I seriously hope you don't point for 4 years, because then I will have to ignore you.
Certainly you must feel that this is different and the media circus and supposed aura around this guy is different? It is like how people swooned over the Beatles in the 60's, a rock star mentality that makes people stop thinking with their heads.
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:53 PM   #11
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Certainly you must feel that this is different and the media circus and supposed aura around this guy is different? It is like how people swooned over the Beatles in the 60's, a rock star mentality that makes people stop thinking with their heads.
And there you go again. Why do you not only assume that Obama supporters are mindless sheep, you damn near assert it?

I am not stupid. I read. I listen. I make up my own mind. I find it extremely insulting that you imply I'm an idiot. It isn't about his supposed aura. But we have gotten to the gist of every post you have made in regards to this election: you are bound and determined to enlighten us who are blind, to steer those of us with no wheel, and deliver us from our mindless following of a cult leader.

I thought you just really had strong opinions. I see now you think I'm stupid in comparison to you and yours.

Thanks though, I'll live in my fog, if that's what you think it is. I don't think it's a fog, however. I may not have 47000 college degrees, rkz (oh, sorry) but I have an education, and I assure you I'm no mindless fool nor am I one to follow a crowd, unless that crowd is right, in my (informed and aware) eyes.
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:03 PM   #12
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And there you go again. Why do you not only assume that Obama supporters are mindless sheep, you damn near assert it?

I am not stupid. I read. I listen. I make up my own mind. I find it extremely insulting that you imply I'm an idiot. It isn't about his supposed aura. But we have gotten to the gist of every post you have made in regards to this election: you are bound and determined to enlighten us who are blind, to steer those of us with no wheel, and deliver us from our mindless following of a cult leader.

I thought you just really had strong opinions. I see now you think I'm stupid in comparison to you and yours.

Thanks though, I'll live in my fog, if that's what you think it is. I don't think it's a fog, however. I may not have 47000 college degrees, rkz (oh, sorry) but I have an education, and I assure you I'm no mindless fool nor am I one to follow a crowd, unless that crowd is right, in my (informed and aware) eyes.
You are reading to much into my comments. Take a chill pill, I made no such assertions. If you put yourself into a group of people who are blindly voting for Obama then that is something you ascribe to yourself, not me.
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:57 PM   #13
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Why do you not only assume that Obama supporters are mindless sheep, you damn near assert it?
Well -- I for one have to. Having read; having observed.

What kind of sheep-fucking idiot drags his feet about winning a war against totalitarian, unabashedly illiberal and oppressive enemies? That's been the Democratic senior leadership all over. Mindless, undemocratic, and unstrategic, focused not on winning the war for humanity (democracy being indisputably better for humans than the Islamists' alternative) but on winning the White House for partisanry's sake.

And, for some people, this is all just fine. Hunky-dory.
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:38 PM   #14
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Wow. You're classy.
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Old 11-04-2008, 04:51 PM   #15
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Well -- I for one have to. Having read; having observed.

What kind of sheep-fucking idiot drags his feet about winning a war against totalitarian, unabashedly illiberal and oppressive enemies? That's been the Democratic senior leadership all over. Mindless, undemocratic, and unstrategic, focused not on winning the war for humanity (democracy being indisputably better for humans than the Islamists' alternative) but on winning the White House for partisanry's sake.

And, for some people, this is all just fine. Hunky-dory.
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Well isn't it kind of us to raise up those poor misguided Muslims. I'm sure all was done in the spirit of Christian kindness. It's the white man's burden but we must bear it as best we can.
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I notice we haven't gone in to help those poor misguided souls in North Korea yet. I wonder why that is?


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