Group therapy time - Page 5

DanaC · 10-20-2011, 08:29 AM

lol

Nice.

Spexxvet · 10-20-2011, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

I liked your post clod.

Spexx, you ARE Spartacus (I say that having no idea what it really means.) I luvs me some Spartacus Spexx.

Aliantha · 10-20-2011, 08:51 AM

I thought Zen was Spartacus?

infinite monkey · 10-20-2011, 08:52 AM

I can't keep all the Spartacuseseses (Spartaci?) straight around here.

Undertoad · 10-20-2011, 09:41 AM

Half of us on antidepressants are on them for anxiety problems, not depression

were you guys waiting for me to come around and point that out

infinite monkey · 10-20-2011, 11:12 AM

Well, my initial diagnosis, some 15 years ago, was chronic depression (you know, before it was all en vogue.)

Finally, a year ago, I was diagnosed additionally with anxiety attacks (disorder?) So that's a different script.

SSRI every day, and anti-anxiety when really really needed.

footfootfoot · 10-20-2011, 11:54 AM

Performance enhancing drugs.

infinite monkey · 10-20-2011, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footfootfoot

Performance enhancing drugs.

Like Viagra?

Clodfobble · 10-20-2011, 12:14 PM

If you feel confident and happy for more than 4 hours, see a doctor.

footfootfoot · 10-20-2011, 12:59 PM

esnicker

Gravdigr · 10-20-2011, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter

...There is no way that 10% of the population actually suffers from depression...

Ten percent taking antidepression meds means that ten percent of the population has been diagnosed as depressed.

The actual number of people suffering from depression will be much higher.

Lamplighter · 10-20-2011, 06:10 PM

or lower...

I admit to my belief that unless it is a true "clinical depression",
there would be alternatives to Rx medications.

The world got along without them for quite a long time.
Unfortunately, for those with true clinical depression,
the options were scarce and awful.

My bias is against the pervasive TV ads for these meds,
and physicians who simply write the script and collect their fee.
In part this is based on the article stating:

Quote:

Patients who take the drugs often get them from their regular doctor
rather than a so-called mental health professional.

ZenGum · 10-20-2011, 06:46 PM

I agree with most everything said above. There is probably overdiagnosis, due to complacent doctors, marketing from drug companies and such. Current levels of depression are probably caused by modern lifestyles and the strange sea of chemicals we now live in. There is the assumption that if you're not happy, something is medically wrong, and that it can be fixed with a pill rather than changing your lifestyle.

I want to add:
Is it that antidepressants are overused in the US, or underused elsewhere?
Countries outside the OECD spend their health resources on life-and-death fights - malaria, TB, malnutrition, cholera etc. Anyone who is merely depressed can get along on their own, or fade away and die.

The OECD has much higher suicide rates than poorer countries, despite having much better living conditions. My guess is that anyone in Calcutta who doesn't have a strong will to live has already died of some disease, and has no need to actively end it all.

Big Sarge · 10-20-2011, 07:26 PM

My father is a Dr of Pharmacy who talked and practiced for 52 years. He always joked, "better living through pharmaceuticals" should be catch phrase for the last 20 years.

My PTSD manifests thru anxiety and obsessive compulsive behaviors. Me off my meds is not something most people would want to see. Many of you have seen the changes in my behavior online when the VA lets me run out of meds

Undertoad · 10-20-2011, 07:38 PM

Half of us on antidepressants are on them for anxiety problems, not depression

fuckers aren't reading my posts again

10-20-2011, 08:51 AM	#63
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I thought Zen was Spartacus? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

10-20-2011, 11:54 AM	#67
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Performance enhancing drugs. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

10-20-2011, 12:14 PM	#69
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	If you feel confident and happy for more than 4 hours, see a doctor. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

10-20-2011, 12:59 PM	#70
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	esnicker __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

10-20-2011, 06:46 PM	#73
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	I agree with most everything said above. There is probably overdiagnosis, due to complacent doctors, marketing from drug companies and such. Current levels of depression are probably caused by modern lifestyles and the strange sea of chemicals we now live in. There is the assumption that if you're not happy, something is medically wrong, and that it can be fixed with a pill rather than changing your lifestyle. I want to add: Is it that antidepressants are overused in the US, or underused elsewhere? Countries outside the OECD spend their health resources on life-and-death fights - malaria, TB, malnutrition, cholera etc. Anyone who is merely depressed can get along on their own, or fade away and die. The OECD has much higher suicide rates than poorer countries, despite having much better living conditions. My guess is that anyone in Calcutta who doesn't have a strong will to live has already died of some disease, and has no need to actively end it all. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

10-20-2011, 08:52 AM	#64
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	I can't keep all the Spartacuseseses (Spartaci?) straight around here.

10-20-2011, 09:41 AM	#65
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Half of us on antidepressants are on them for anxiety problems, not depression were you guys waiting for me to come around and point that out

10-20-2011, 11:12 AM	#66
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Well, my initial diagnosis, some 15 years ago, was chronic depression (you know, before it was all en vogue.) Finally, a year ago, I was diagnosed additionally with anxiety attacks (disorder?) So that's a different script. SSRI every day, and anti-anxiety when really really needed.

10-20-2011, 07:26 PM	#74
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	My father is a Dr of Pharmacy who talked and practiced for 52 years. He always joked, "better living through pharmaceuticals" should be catch phrase for the last 20 years. My PTSD manifests thru anxiety and obsessive compulsive behaviors. Me off my meds is not something most people would want to see. Many of you have seen the changes in my behavior online when the VA lets me run out of meds __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

10-20-2011, 07:38 PM	#75
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Half of us on antidepressants are on them for anxiety problems, not depression fuckers aren't reading my posts again

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