"th" as in "the" or "thread" - Page 4

Perry Winkle · 09-17-2007, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razzmatazz13

People who say "wooder" also tend to say "warsh" or "worsh" instead of wash...

Also I've heard that's just a PA thing

Some rural Missouri dialects have "warsh/worsh" thing but not "wooder."

Happy Monkey · 09-17-2007, 10:20 AM

I heard that the DC accent at one point said "Warshinton", but I've never heard it in person.

glatt · 09-17-2007, 10:24 AM

I've known exactly one person who said "Warshington," but she retired two years ago from my place of work.

Shawnee123 · 09-17-2007, 10:31 AM

You hear "warsh" around here a lot. Also, "feesh"

Trilby · 09-18-2007, 09:40 AM

I just got back from the Cod (those Pilgrims---so freakin' literal!) and the most pronounced accent I heard was Portuguese which is lyrical and nice to the ear.

Anyway, most of you know how i feel about pronunciation. If a guy says "twicet" instead of "twice," I know I'm goin' to the Monster Truck Rally.

Shawnee123 · 09-18-2007, 09:56 AM

Twicet! lol

Big pet peeve...around here, the first syllable in mnemonic is pronounced like pneumonia and pneumonia is pronounced like mnemonic. Yes, we have many occasions to say mnemonic because of our software setup. People with doctorate degrees who can't enunciate? Or, the fact that most FA people I know, even, say FASFA, when it's FAFSA.

[/irrelevant ranting]

Razzmatazz13 · 09-18-2007, 11:01 AM

My mom says FASFA....drives me insannnnneeee

so I know where you're coming from on that one.

Urbane Guerrilla · 09-25-2007, 04:51 AM

Free Application for Federal Student Aid?

Maybe if they'd capitalized the other F too?

theotherguy · 09-25-2007, 05:14 PM

OK, back to the "th." "Th" in the and thread are the same. It is the fact that your lips, tongue, and teeth do very different things following the initial 'th' that you think you are saying them differently.

Maybe I have missed the point of the thread.

I gotta start drinking earlier in the day if I am going to respond to these things.

manephelien · 09-26-2007, 01:47 AM

The is aspirated, i. e. you suck air when you say it. Thread is not, so it sounds different. The tongue stays in the same position in both, however.

DanaC · 09-26-2007, 03:16 AM

Depends on accent I guess, but to me the tongue seems to touch the teeth more on "the" than on "thread".

HungLikeJesus · 09-26-2007, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC

Depends on accent I guess, but to me the tongue seems to touch the teeth more on "the" than on "thread".

I agree with Dana on this. My tongue is in a slightly different position, and I'm blowing out on both.

Hang on - I thought this was the RBS thread.

ZenGum · 10-09-2007, 12:32 AM

As far as I know, the difference between th in "this" and th in "thin" is that the first is voiced, and the second is unvoiced. Everything in your mouth is the same, but you engage your vocal cords.

I have spent a lot of time trying to get Japanese people to stick out their tongues to say "th".

So much for the dental fricative. Now, about your labial plosive ...

09-17-2007, 10:20 AM	#47
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	I heard that the DC accent at one point said "Warshinton", but I've never heard it in person. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

09-17-2007, 10:31 AM	#49
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	You hear "warsh" around here a lot. Also, "feesh" __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

09-18-2007, 09:40 AM	#50
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I just got back from the Cod (those Pilgrims---so freakin' literal!) and the most pronounced accent I heard was Portuguese which is lyrical and nice to the ear. Anyway, most of you know how i feel about pronunciation. If a guy says "twicet" instead of "twice," I know I'm goin' to the Monster Truck Rally. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

09-18-2007, 09:56 AM	#51
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Twicet! lol Big pet peeve...around here, the first syllable in mnemonic is pronounced like pneumonia and pneumonia is pronounced like mnemonic. Yes, we have many occasions to say mnemonic because of our software setup. People with doctorate degrees who can't enunciate? Or, the fact that most FA people I know, even, say FASFA, when it's FAFSA. [/irrelevant ranting] __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

09-18-2007, 11:01 AM	#52
Razzmatazz13 Vicariously, I live... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,221	My mom says FASFA....drives me insannnnneeee so I know where you're coming from on that one. __________________ I have some people I need to have smoted. ~ SteveDallas

09-17-2007, 10:24 AM	#48
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I've known exactly one person who said "Warshington," but she retired two years ago from my place of work.

09-25-2007, 04:51 AM	#53
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Free Application for Federal Student Aid? Maybe if they'd capitalized the other F too?

09-25-2007, 05:14 PM	#54
theotherguy no not that other guy, the other one Join Date: May 2007 Location: TN Posts: 640	OK, back to the "th." "Th" in the and thread are the same. It is the fact that your lips, tongue, and teeth do very different things following the initial 'th' that you think you are saying them differently. Maybe I have missed the point of the thread. I gotta start drinking earlier in the day if I am going to respond to these things.

09-26-2007, 01:47 AM	#55
manephelien Smooth Ruffian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hogwarts Posts: 47	The is aspirated, i. e. you suck air when you say it. Thread is not, so it sounds different. The tongue stays in the same position in both, however. __________________ Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus.

09-26-2007, 03:16 AM	#56
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Depends on accent I guess, but to me the tongue seems to touch the teeth more on "the" than on "thread".

10-09-2007, 12:32 AM	#58
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	As far as I know, the difference between th in "this" and th in "thin" is that the first is voiced, and the second is unvoiced. Everything in your mouth is the same, but you engage your vocal cords. I have spent a lot of time trying to get Japanese people to stick out their tongues to say "th". So much for the dental fricative. Now, about your labial plosive ...

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