Discrimination?

[Spexxvet]

I don't want to speak for him, but my impression of Ibram's point is not "should I do this?" It's "is it discrimination?"

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

I don't want to speak for him, but my impression of Ibram's point is not "should I do this?" It's "is it discrimination?"

Okay. IMHO, it's not discrimination. It's like being resentful that you have to do your class project with someone you don't want to do it with--you just do it and move on.

Here's a little gem of truth: Life is a Shit Sandwich and you've only had a nibble.

xoBruce---was that little moral directed at me?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Brianna

Okay. IMHO, it's not discrimination. It's like being resentful that you have to do your class project with someone you don't want to do it with--you just do it and move on.

Here's a little gem of truth: Life is a Shit Sandwich and you've only had a nibble.

But the more bread you have the less shit you taste.

xoBruce---was that little moral directed at me?

I don't know which one you are referring to but the only thing I have directed at you, no one can see but me.

[Ibby]

Amen, bluey.

[Cloud]

no, I don't think gay men lack social skills; that's far too general a statement. I think children lack social skills, however, and that's what is being taught here.

[Sheldonrs]

How about if the school "compromised" and stated that all straight students must dance with a gay student as well?

[Cloud]

but wouldn't that force people to come out when they're not ready? Or even sure? We are talking teenagers here. And why make labels at all? Learning how to social dance is immaterial to your sexual orientation.

[bluecuracao]

Then, they shouldn't give kids worse grades for not dancing with the opposite sex.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

Then, they shouldn't give kids worse grades for not dancing with the opposite sex.

Then if the teacher says draw a map of Germany and you draw a map of France because you're Jewish, you shouldn't get a lower grade. High School, follow orders or pay the price.

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Then if the teacher says draw a map of Germany and you draw a map of France because you're Jewish, you shouldn't get a lower grade. High School, follow orders or pay the price.

That's not a good comparison by any stretch. And I think you must have had a different high school experience than I had, and/or misinterpreted the "price."

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Then if the teacher says draw a map of Germany and you draw a map of France because you're Jewish, you shouldn't get a lower grade. High School, follow orders or pay the price.

That's not his point. He's gonna dance with a girl. It's more like the teacher tells you to write the "N" word. You do it, but it's racist.

[Cloud]

Sure they should, because being uncooperative and disruptive means they are not learning the social skills which is the whole point of the class

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by Cloud

Sure they should, because being uncooperative and disruptive means they are not learning the social skills which is the whole point of the class

I don't think questioning the rules necessarily equals being uncooperative and disruptive--it's part of the learning process. And if the kids aren't given worse grades for not dancing with the opposite sex in the first place, then they're not even put in the position of having to question the rules.

[freshnesschronic]

Damn this thread has evolved.
I'll keep it simple.

The public schools (at least in the States) strip you of many of your civil rights. And there's nothing you can do about it. Just dance with a girl, I loved social dance in high school.

[monster]

OK. Is it discrimination?

Are they giving you a lower grade because you danced with a partner of the same sex, or are they giving you a lower grade because you disobeyed the instruction to dance with a partner of the opposite sex?