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[HungLikeJesus]

We have to ask ourselves, would the Cellar survive without UT?

[Griff]

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

We have to ask ourselves, would the Cellar survive without UT?

Why is it that that was my first question as well... gee whiz I'm a cultist!

[BigV]

no

[HungLikeJesus]

[ZenGum]

Ergo, we are a cult.


Hey UT, your serene divinity, when was the last time someone logically proved that you are highly charismatic?

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

Ergo, we are a cult.

You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think.

[HungLikeJesus]

You've been cultivated.

[Undertoad]

If this place lived off my charisma it would surely be vacant...!

[BigV]

fortunately, your modesty sustains us as well.

[Sundae]

Grav, I do get the original question, but the answer lies in bigotry and ignorance (genuine and assumed).
There are many many things you can read about Islam which might suggest a Muslim could not live in a country with democratic ideals.

But their holy book - like those of Judaism and Christianity - was written in a time when democracy did not count. The opinion of the vast majority of the men in the country meant nothing. And women and slaves were owned heart and soul by their Master, as were their offspring, regardless of whether his opinion counted in the wider world or not.

Mohammed was surprisingly enlightened for his time, more so than some Mormons in the last 100 years. But there are words and attitudes adhered to by some of his followers than can be condemned by today's standards.

Practices are open to interpretation.
Words can be twisted.

If you ask me what a generic American might regard as an problem with Islam I would suggest some of the more warlike passages of the Koran, conversion of non-Muslims with death to those who resist, suppression of women, homophobia and the rules laid down about pilgrimage to a foreign land.

These are perceptions. Some correct (and true in all three of the Abrahamic religions). Some taken out of context or only observed by fundamentalists. Some true but not really a problem. You are an intelligent man and you've admitted that you're not predisposed to bias in this case. I hope this reply helps.

[Gravdigr]

BigV, your apology was unnecessary (but' I'll take it, & save it for a rainy day). I knew there would be an explanation/more info forthcoming from you, you don't usually spout without splaining.

I do appreciate everyone's input.

The "American Citizen" part I get. Born here, lived here 43 years.

The "Devout Muslim" part, I obviously need to study on.

I know that every Muslim on the planet is not out to get America. Yes, I get the idea of 'extremism', and that there are extremists in every religion. Those Amish hair attacks? Amish Extremists. And I know of more than one church group that could be boiled down to Baptist Extremists.

Are Muslims the new Communists?

Is Islam replacing global warming?

Am I beginning to sound like Pensive Pam & JB Klyde's love child?

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Gravdigr

Am I beginning to sound like Pensive Pam & JB Klyde's love child?

Quick Shoot it shoot it NOWWWWWWWWWW

[DanaC]

Well, I thought it was fucking funny. Reminded me of some of Jimmy Carr's material. The context of the joke is rape, but the actual humour comes from the word play.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Reminded me of some of Jimmy Carr's material.

The other day I learned that Jimmy Carr came from a very religious background, and was a virgin until the age of 26. Explains a whole lot, I think.

[DanaC]

Yeah. He was a devout Catholic iirc. Believed in saving himself for marriage and I think at one point was considering the priesthood.

As he himself says, since then, he's all about the poontang.


:p


I love him in interview. So clever. When he talks about comedy and jokes in particular. A proper joke technician.