China wrecked the Copenhagen deal - Page 3

glatt · 01-11-2010, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by aliasyzy

the data of these two charts are from World Resources Institute
now is 2010, but it won't change a lot on the shape of these two charts.

It will change them both significantly. China has passed the US in total emissions. Not that the US has anything to brag about.

aliasyzy · 01-11-2010, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

It will change them both significantly. China has passed the US in total emissions. Not that the US has anything to brag about.

for the first chart, it won't change significantly, because the stock is too large for the new increase to change it.

for the second chart, in the link you give, US 18.67 ton per capita, China 4.57 ton per capita (less than 1/4 of US), still doesn't change significantly

classicman · 01-11-2010, 10:20 AM

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It's a common sense in the world that US is the first to blame for the global warming,

Oh Please, The US is the first to be blamed for all the ills of the world. We do more for every other nation on this planet - bar none. And we get a lot of shit for it. I'd be interested to know what would happen if we just said "Fuck you" to all these countries that need us to finance just about everything. I wonder...

Do the Chinese have the right to ship their polluted and poisonous products all over the world?

A little money? Are you kidding me? You talk about biased sources - Whew. Look at your own. Seems to me you're an apologist for China.

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Who wrecked the Copenhagen deal? Use your brain instead of swallow those propaganda and prejudices!

There are a lot more sources who blame China than the US.

I think it may be you who is swallowing a great deal of propaganda.

aliasyzy · 01-11-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by aliasyzy

There are a lot more sources who blame China than the US.

I think it may be you who is swallowing a great deal of propaganda.

It's simply because US is No.1 in propaganda/PR as well as in its military power. And people always tend to say and believe what benefits them most.

I have to go to sleep, it's midnight in China. Good day.

BTW: Chinese Government propagandas but it's very poor at this sophisticated skill, so i don't think i will swallow any of it.

jinx · 01-11-2010, 10:48 AM

Well, is emitting huge amounts a bad idea or isn't it?

Shawnee123 · 01-11-2010, 10:50 AM

You can't put too much water in a nuclear reactor.

glatt · 01-11-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by aliasyzy

[the USA] remains the first place in terms of emission per capita

Wrong. According to the info at Wikipedia, Australia is in 1st place per capita. Jinx pointed that out a couple posts above this one. And China is in first place overall.

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

You can't put too much water in a nuclear reactor.

Haggis

aliasyzy · 01-11-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

You can't put too much water in a nuclear reactor.

then American people could be a role-model for other developed and developing countries first and lower your material life quality to 1/2 or even less?

TheMercenary · 01-12-2010, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by aliasyzy

then American people could be a role-model for other developed and developing countries first and lower your material life quality to 1/2 or even less?

Yea but then China would go bankrupt. So would Walmart.

Shawnee123 · 01-11-2010, 11:09 AM

yeah, but when it comes to dangerous metals in children's toys, YOU GUYS ARE DA MAN! Woot woot!

aliasyzy · 01-11-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

yeah, but when it comes to dangerous metals in children's toys, YOU GUYS ARE DA MAN! Woot woot!

don't be happy too soon.

I just don't have time to answer each and every of these nonsense. maybe weekend.

gotta go to sleep, bye

gvidas · 10-27-2013, 10:55 PM

That's eerie, I just finished reading that article not 2 minutes ago.

The presentation is phenomenal. It really nicely integrates short looped video, still photographs, and stellar writing. I knew nothing about the region or its politics before I started reading, and now feel much more informed than I did an hour ago.

Usually in order to read any dense geopolitical analysis I need a vested interest; apparently, flashy graphics will work in a pinch.

classicman · 01-11-2010, 11:20 AM

Ok, Goodnight my Chinese Emma.

Shawnee123 · 01-11-2010, 11:28 AM

Maybe they'll start manufacturing senses of humor.

Undertoad · 01-11-2010, 11:54 AM

China took a primary role in scuttling Copenhagen, but one can hardly blame them. It was going to be scuttled somewhere. China is simply the party with the most to lose at this moment in time, and the most willing to take a hard stance.

We notice that Communism is a source of pollution. In the 80s, the worst-polluted rivers of the world were to be found in eastern Europe. Today, they are all found in eastern China. India is the exception to this rule, but of course India has its own societal problems.

01-11-2010, 10:48 AM	#5
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Well, is emitting huge amounts a bad idea or isn't it? __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

01-11-2010, 10:50 AM	#6
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	You can't put too much water in a nuclear reactor. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

01-11-2010, 11:09 AM	#10
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	yeah, but when it comes to dangerous metals in children's toys, YOU GUYS ARE DA MAN! Woot woot! __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

01-11-2010, 11:20 AM	#13
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Ok, Goodnight my Chinese Emma. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-11-2010, 11:28 AM	#14
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Maybe they'll start manufacturing senses of humor. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

10-27-2013, 10:55 PM	#12
gvidas Hoodoo Guru Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 286	That's eerie, I just finished reading that article not 2 minutes ago. The presentation is phenomenal. It really nicely integrates short looped video, still photographs, and stellar writing. I knew nothing about the region or its politics before I started reading, and now feel much more informed than I did an hour ago. Usually in order to read any dense geopolitical analysis I need a vested interest; apparently, flashy graphics will work in a pinch.

01-11-2010, 11:54 AM	#15
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	China took a primary role in scuttling Copenhagen, but one can hardly blame them. It was going to be scuttled somewhere. China is simply the party with the most to lose at this moment in time, and the most willing to take a hard stance. We notice that Communism is a source of pollution. In the 80s, the worst-polluted rivers of the world were to be found in eastern Europe. Today, they are all found in eastern China. India is the exception to this rule, but of course India has its own societal problems.

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