March 9, 2008 Amazing Chopper Pilot

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

And you would be the first in line to whine when we had no one.

No one what? No one to protect me from the Boogie Man?

Don't get me wrong - I'm glad we have the armed forces - it gives us a place to send the psychopathic killers that are smart enough or white enough to stay out of prison. Just don't try to justify their existence by claiming that we're being "protected" from something. It's been a really long time since any foreign forces set foot in the US, and I, personally, am armed enough and man enough to defend myself.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by mbrutsch

It's been a really long time since any foreign forces set foot in the US, and I, personally, am armed enough and man enough to defend myself.

OK, so you have enough firepower to kill any foreign soldiers who set foot on your property. That's great. How's that going to help you when they shut off the power, or stop the food deliveries?

Originally Posted by glatt

How's that going to help you when they shut off the power, or stop the food deliveries?

Wow, you guys have some really active imaginations. But let's say, for the sake of argument, that something like that happens. There's no one in the US to help, anyway. Both the regular military *and* the national guard are overseas, killing millions of furriners/spreading democracy. California can't even cope with wildfires, because there are so few NG in the US. So, you tell me: if the fit hits the shan over here, who's gonna be here to take care of things?

[glatt]

Perhaps I misunderstood your post. I thought you were saying that we don't need a military because you are well armed.

I was pointing out that just because you may have enough firepower to control you immediate vicinity does not mean you have enough to protect your way of life.

[Undertoad]

You don't live anywhere near Manhattan, do ya, mbrutsch

it's ok you can tell us

Originally Posted by glatt

protect your way of life.

Interesting choice of words. As far as the military is concerned, protecting US soil should be their *only* purpose. Whenever someone points out how we go around the world to other countries and kill their citizens so we can take their resources, the pat response is "we need the military to protect Amurrca!" Can you, without looking it up, name the last time that the US military was used to repel foreign invaders on US soil? Anything beyond our borders is hegemony, pure and simple. I think my "way of life" is much more threatened by fundamentalist Xtians, billionaire CEOs and corrupt elected officials than any of the regions we've invaded overseas.

Originally Posted by Undertoad

You don't live anywhere near Manhattan, do ya, mbrutsch

it's ok you can tell us

No, "Occupied Northern Mexico" refers to Texas. I'm not from here, however, and the locals are actually a pretty scary bunch. I don't think anyone's lining up to protect me from *them*, however.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by mbrutsch

Can you, without looking it up, name the last time that the US military was used to repel foreign invaders on US soil?

That's easy. WWII. Japan invaded Alaska and attacked Hawaii.

Originally Posted by glatt

That's easy. WWII. Japan invaded Alaska and attacked Hawaii.

I was speaking of the actual United States, not the various floating specks of land around the world that we've claimed are ours, usually at the expense of the people who live(d) there.

Hawaii didn't become a state until 1959 (not that that keeps us from claiming it). But I'll give you Alaska. I'm sure the huge civilian populations of the Aleutian Islands were grateful for the assistance of the military in repelling the invaders of their homelands. Oh, wait. WE were the invaders of their homelands. Never mind.

I think you're stretching to make a point, but technically, you're correct. So it's been 60 years since the last invasion. Tell me again why we need the world's largest and most expensive military force?

[glatt]

Originally Posted by mbrutsch

you're correct.

Originally Posted by glatt

Nice try, but you didn't answer my question. Do you perhaps work for a huge, multinational defense contractor? Or own a bunch of their stock? Or are you just fond of seeing dim-witted American kids come home in boxes?

[Undertoad]

So it's been 60 years since the last invasion. Tell me again why we need the world's largest and most expensive military force?

Because it's kept us from being invaded... for 60 years so far, which, lo and behold, is the last time we didn't have the world's largest and most expensive military force.

Of course, that's one of the oldest jokes ever written.

Girl: Why do you keep clicking your fingers when we walk around?
Guy: It keeps the tigers away.
Girl: There aren't any tigers around here.
Guy: It's working!

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Because it's kept us from being invaded.

Wow. I bet you believe that, too.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by mbrutsch

Wow. I bet you believe that, too.

Are you always a fucking idiot or do you just play one on here?

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Are you always a fucking idiot or do you just play one on here?

Are we really going to resort to name-calling? I suppose that a mercenary who can't shoot his guns at something must resort to shooting off his mouth. Why don't you go salute something, or invade something, or whatever it is paid killers do when they're bored?