Best interests of the child vs parental beliefs

[wolf]

Then there's the case of Adolf Hitler, Honszlynn, and Aryan Nation Campbell (Actually the girl's name is JoyceLynn, Aryan Nation is her middle name). This is the case that broke over a Birthday Cake ... ShopRite dimed them out to the NJ Department of Youth and Family Services, and refused to put Adolf's name on the cake.

There was no neglect. There was no abuse.

The children were taken out of the home because of their names ... the children were removed from the home because of alleged abuse and incompetent parenting ... well, the investigations have shown the charges to be unfounded and where are the kids? Still in foster care.

Okay, so the parents are idiots. But other than having crazy beliefs, they're apparently not bad parents.

Now, I think the kids names are stupider than stupid can be, but as far as such things go, it's no stupider than a lot of the homemade names folks are coming up with these days.

[classicman]

My daughter knows a girl named Azalea?!?!?
How about Keith Krimson Kaut whom I went to HS with.

Yep - the lines are blurred.

[wolf]

I'm still trying to figure out Jaden/Jaydan/Jai-Da'an/Jaedun/etc/adnauseum. Especially when neither (presumed) parent's name involves either a "J" or a "Dan."

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by wolf

I'm still trying to figure out Jaden/Jaydan/Jai-Da'an/Jaedun/etc/adnauseum. Especially when neither (presumed) parent's name involves either a "J" or a "Dan."

Does a name have to have a connection to the parent's name?
I might be missing something here.

Somewhere I know, is a child called Breeze.
She has a sister called Strom (deliberately misspelt by me in case of internet searches).
Seems mean to make one more powerful than the other. Although Strom is the least stormy child you could ever meet.

I've never really understood calling children by the same names everyone else has, or giving a child your own name, yet I know it's more common than not. On the other hand I wouldn't want to give a child a name that needs an explanation every time, or has to be repeated over and over and then spelled out EVERY TIME. Can you tell I had some issues with this before I reverted to my childhood nickname? And no, Monster, I don't count your children in with the bizarre names, only with the uncommon ones.

Mine would have been Felix and Oscar and Ruby and Rose
Although if I had met their father he might have wanted a say...
Not serious, just that those are names I really like.

One of my pet dislikes is Anglicised Gaelic names.
Orla. No. They should have the courage of their convictions and have it spelled Orlaith. Yes that breaks my rules above, but if you want a Gaelic name you should be willing to stick up for it. I never promised to be consistent.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Sundae

Does a name have to have a connection to the parent's name?
I might be missing something here.

Here in the U.S. there is a trend (that we could probably do without) of blending the parents names to name the child. I suppose it's an additional confirmation of paternity, other than just giving the baby the father's last name.

Of course, people do turn around and do other stupid shit.

I went to high school with a girl with a rather distinctive first name (misspelling of an insect) and a last name with romantic associations. She called her out-of-wedlock (a bigger deal then than it is now) child "Romeo."

crazynurse's daughter clearly had some sort of brain damage during delivery and named her child "Draven."

Yes, she named her kid after the dead guy in The Crow. Not Eric, which would have been perfectly acceptable, but Draven.

I do not get this. I do not.

[monster]

Azalea is a flowering shrub. People have been naming girls after flowers forever. Why should azalea be unacceptable?

[GunMaster357]

Originally Posted by monster

People have been naming girls after flowers forever.

Could lead to some funny situations.

For example, in French, the vernacular name of the White stonecrop is "trique-madame".

Which roughly translates as "fuck woman".

[ZenGum]

Originally Posted by monster

Azalea is a flowering shrub. People have been naming girls after flowers forever. Why should azalea be unacceptable?

She'll be eaten by a semi-literate dingo.

I'm in a bit of a mood today, and the OP is pissing me off. Why should someone get to fill some poor child's head with vicious, harmful bull$#'! that will leave it with years of trauma? If you did that to someone else's kid you'd be thrown in prison.

A lot of religions are harmful and spiteful, and only perpetuate themselves by obliging their adherents to breed and brainwash their children into the religion. Sod that. Raise the kids with an open view and allow them to choose when they are adults. Somehow.

I know it is socially very dangerous to say what people can and cannot teach their children, but I think we need to make some kind of limits.

If the bible were brought before censors nowadays it would be rated MA(V) 18+. And yet we let people shove this down the throats of children.

[SamIam]

The Old Testament is pornographic and Revelations was written by a psycho on crack. Children should be strongly discouraged from going anywhere near it. I wish the Rapture would hurry up and arrive so we could be rid of the Republican party. Children excepted, of course.

[Rrrraven]

Originally Posted by SamIam

I wish the Rapture would hurry up and arrive so we could be rid of the Republican party. :

I just snorted so loud it woke my dog up.

[footfootfoot]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

Sod that. Raise the kids with an open view and allow them to choose when they are adults. Somehow.

Rumspringa RULES!

Originally Posted by SamIam

The Old Testament is pornographic and Revelations was written by a psycho on crack.

Actually, revelations is an example of a popular genre of writing called Apocalyptic literature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalyptic_literature

[Lamplighter]

Which came first, the pornography or the Apocalyptic literature ?

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

She'll be eaten by a semi-literate dingo.

I'm in a bit of a mood today, and the OP is pissing me off. Why should someone get to fill some poor child's head with vicious, harmful bull$#'! that will leave it with years of trauma? If you did that to someone else's kid you'd be thrown in prison.

A lot of religions are harmful and spiteful, and only perpetuate themselves by obliging their adherents to breed and brainwash their children into the religion. Sod that. Raise the kids with an open view and allow them to choose when they are adults. Somehow.

I know it is socially very dangerous to say what people can and cannot teach their children, but I think we need to make some kind of limits.

If the bible were brought before censors nowadays it would be rated MA(V) 18+. And yet we let people shove this down the throats of children.

[classicman]

Because I don't like it and I said, so that's why.

[monster]

And Hebe is apparently an offensive nickname for Jews in America. But it's also a beautiful flowering shrub, and the name has been used occasionally since the early 1900s in England, and is apparently popular in Japan. (It originates from Greek Mythology -Hebe is the daughter of Zeus and hera and cupbearer to the gods -the goddess of youth, Juventas in Roman terms)

Srsly, there would be no names if we overthink it. Babies are still being named John, Willie, Dave and Dick. My niece just got named Orla. I so hope beest is wrong about what her nick-name will be when she gets to high school.

that said, I'm not into names with punctuation. Although, now I think it through, it's kind of a fun "fuck you" to grammar nazis. Spend years being told you're putting apostrophe's () in the wrong place... once it's on the birth cert it's the right place even if it follows no grammatical logic.