What is the ethical thing to do?

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by chrisinhouston

both of them swear directly at their kids mostly in anger. Lots of "stupid fucking moron, asshole, bitch," etc.

These are bad people. It doesn't matter if they're saying "idiot" or "fucktard" at that point, if they're angrily saying it directly at the kids, then I'm surprised you've put up with them as long as you have. Do what you can for those kids, man. They're going to need your influence.

[orthodoc]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

These are bad people. It doesn't matter if they're saying "idiot" or "fucktard" at that point, if they're angrily saying it directly at the kids, then I'm surprised you've put up with them as long as you have. Do what you can for those kids, man. They're going to need your influence.

Yes. All that swearing, name-calling, and disparaging is straight-up abuse. If that's the rule in that household, don't let it go by. Those kids will be ruined in all sorts of ways.

Your stepson and dil have sent you a clear message. I'd be removing myself from their vicinity and handing back grandma's care and chauffering to the blood relatives. You don't want to be accused of murdering grandma if she has a heart attack while you're driving her around.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Grandma is his mother-in-law, if he backs away it's on his wife.