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10-21-2011, 08:34 PM | #76 | |
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I never, *ever* thought I'd see the day mercy declared he'd vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016!!! [ faints ]
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And here comes Herman again...
NY Times By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG Published: October 22, 2011 Cain, Now Running as Outsider, Came to Washington as Lobbyist Quote:
Cain writes: "Jesus was "The Perfect Conservative" and was killed by a liberal court" Quote:
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10-22-2011, 07:18 PM | #78 |
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[ incredulous stare ]
That's all I got.
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Wow.
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Say what ye like about the Republicans: they're entertainig.
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Just 10 days ago, Classic forecast the imminent demise of Herman Cain's 15 minutes.
Maybe Cain's run will continue for a while, and maybe he will become the GOP candidate, and maybe he will even be elected President in 2012 By now enough has been said about Cain to understand him So, until my dog does get into this fight, I plan to ignore him and his "discontinuities". It's time to look closer at the others for the qualities they possess and profess. Right now, Romney and Perry seem to be the two top-dogs in this fight... Washington Post By Philip Rucker Published: October*22a Mitt Romney reaches out to voters but often lacks the common touch Quote:
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It has been reported that upon viewing the film, Dan Quayle came to the conclusion that he was more handsome than Robert Redford, and that he would be well equipped to win a campaign to enter the White House I've seen the movie "The Candidate" Robert Redford was a great actor Mitt Romney, sir, is no Robert Redford |
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10-23-2011, 04:59 PM | #82 | |
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Perhaps the media fascination of this guy will end soon ... I don't see that happening though. See their coverage of Palin, Bachmann et all as a reference. They seem to be fixated on the extremist positions instead of the more rational ones. (I don't wonder why)
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10-23-2011, 06:47 PM | #83 |
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NO! That's for democrats.
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10-23-2011, 08:01 PM | #84 | |
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I believe the why is mostly two fold, and these two factors exacerbate each other in a positive feedback cycle. 1 -- MOST media is commercially based, and depends, as most corporations do, on making a profit. That profit comes from advertising mostly, and the revenues from advertising comes from advertisers who have been told and expect to have their commercials seen/heard by lots of people. What attracts those viewers/listeners? Spectacle, suspense, a good story. More excitement means more audience. 2 -- MOST presidential candidates for a party nomination know that they have to appeal to the greatest number of voters (for this restricted "election"). The voters in these several elections/caucuses/primaries are interested, motivated, focused voters. These are people who have definite ideas about what they want in a candidate. This includes "independents" for those areas that permit independents to vote. These more keenly interested, highly motivated, more intensely ideological voters have their choice among the competitors for the party nomination. They're looking for someone who is the *most* Republican, or the most (fill in the important issue here) of all the candidates. The result is you hear the candidates *competing* to be more _____ than the next one. This results in a "I'll see your position, and raise you" race to the far end of the spectrum in a race to be the most appealing. "I know you are, but I'm MORE." A race to the extreme. This is double fucking rainbow awesome for the broadcast media, as each day is a richer harvest of more spectacle than the last one. Since the candidates know this too, they play on the media's hunger for more and more, substance be damned. Point 1 feeds on point 2 and that makes more of point 1, repeat (ugh) until the nomination. Then it is a race to the center, because this new pool of voters is very different than the previous pools for the candidate who wins a major political party nomination. This race to the extreme then race back to the middle makes for some mental whiplash, but that is a small price to pay to get elected. Which must be done before one can govern.
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In Texas, the candidates traditionally vie for who is the "most Conservative", regardless of party affiliation. Romney doesn't have a clue how this works, so his numbers stay constant. But the thing that is really different this time around is the parties have reversed themselves. Usually, it's the Democrats beating up on one another in the primaries, and then have to suddenly realign for the general election. The Republicans usually fall right into formation with the candidate based on who is next in line (a la Romney). I think McCain was the exception, and look where that got them. If the Republicans are not successful this time, the Roves, Rollins, Norquists, and McConnolls will squash the Tea Party and their ilk for generations to come. Last edited by Lamplighter; 10-23-2011 at 08:42 PM. |
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Governor Rick Perry has released his tax plan which is being touted as a "flat tax"
Below is what I have extracted from a couple of articles, mainly from today's Washington Post Washington Post By Perry Bacon Jr. October*25, 6:22*AM Perry calls for major spending and tax cuts Quote:
Romney:20 % Perry : 18% and Balanced Budget Amendment Huntsman: three tax rates: 8%, 14%, and 23% Cain: 9% on income, 9% on sales Current special taxes All candidates: Repeal estate tax Romney: no taxes on interest, dividend income for less than$200K Perry: eliminates: taxes on estates, capital gains and dividends Cain: repeals all other taxes other than 9-9-9 Social Security Romney: Raise retirement age Perry: Private savings account outside Cain: (0%) Corporate taxes Romney 25% Perry 20% OR current tax system Gingrich: 15% or current tax system Cain: 9% Deductions: Romney: Current system Perry: keeps mortgage interest and charitable donations Huntsman eliminates all deductions Cain: eliminates all deductions Quote:
Steve Forbes previously announced his support of Perry, and Perry's plan is based on Forbes' "flat tax" plan from previous years, but a Forbes Magazine article today says: Quote:
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10-26-2011, 08:41 PM | #87 |
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What a funny statement!
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The political news over the past days has been lackluster.
The media seems to be drying up on GOP tax plan proposals, leaving Gov Rick Perry as 'foil dejour' . With another GOP debate coming in just two weeks, Polls are the fun and games for the news media ... in the North, Romney leads Cain ... in the South, Romney and Cain are tied but in all the country but Texas, it may be unanimous... Perry is at the bottom of the heap. And maybe wants to stay there. Christian Science Monitor Does Rick Perry really want to be president? Texas Gov. Rick Perry's debate performance, and other clues, indicate to DCDecoder that Rick Perry may not be 'in it to win it.' The Christian Science Monitor By Liz Marlantes October 13, 2011 Quote:
with Perry's performance in debates, and the media are speaking openly about it. The Atlantic Oct 27 2011, 9:14 AM ET Rick Perry Ponders Staying Home for Future Debates Quote:
on Perry's role in State government, which also seems to be haphazard. LA Times October 26, 2011 Perry opposes Confederate Texas license plate proposal Quote:
Perry is not despairing. He is not the only GOP candidate whose remarks need to be clarified. Perry has a role model in Mitt Romney: Mitt Romney Questions Obama Troop Withdrawal, Says He’d Vote for Rick Perry Quote:
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10-27-2011, 04:48 PM | #90 |
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He may have a problem getting votes in GA.
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