Self Policing Militia Summons

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by jinx

No. Not true.

I wouldn't expect that from you unless you had a damn good reason. I don't see you as being a snipe.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

That's what chat is for.

funny you mention that. last night, for the first time in over a year, BigV saw fit to log into chat and act like he was a regular. wonder why he did that. I don't ever recall chatting with you, spex. I wonder how you know what is discussed there.

[Spexxvet]

11:46:44 ‹jim› http/www.youtube.com/watch?v...related
21/06/2010 11:46:50 ‹jim› check that out before you go
21/06/2010 11:47:09 ‹kero› you mutherfucker
21/06/2010 11:47:13 ‹kero› gnight
21/06/2010 11:47:19 ‹jim› lol
21/06/2010 11:47:21 ‹jim› nifght
21/06/2010 11:47:24 ‹jim› thanks
21/06/2010 11:47:35 ‹jim› that pleased me

[kerosene]

The song actually started before I realized what had happened. And every time you do it, I always think "never again!"

[monster]

I think the point spexx is making is that he's a chat peeping tom. He listens/watches unseen in the hope of gleaning gossip/evidence of subplots etc. Just like V does/used to. Or maybe not even unseen, I wasn't in there last night, maybe he unclaocked...

And there are others. How sad.

Not only that but keeping a record of it? And he wonders why he's not a popular dwellar......

I bet he jerks off to zippy telling us about his latest plumbing achievements and jim bitching about just how late he's having to work.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

11:46:44 ‹jim› http/www.youtube.com/watch?v...related
21/06/2010 11:46:50 ‹jim› check that out before you go
21/06/2010 11:47:09 ‹kero› you mutherfucker
21/06/2010 11:47:13 ‹kero› gnight
21/06/2010 11:47:19 ‹jim› lol
21/06/2010 11:47:21 ‹jim› nifght
21/06/2010 11:47:24 ‹jim› thanks
21/06/2010 11:47:35 ‹jim› that pleased me

yes, spex, anyone can log into chat any time and see the last 20-30 lines of chat from the previous discussion. it's kind of creepy to do if you weren't involved in the discussion, and you don't get a true sense of context for what you DO see there.

So..... what point are you trying to make exactly with all of this? Is there a chat conspiracy? Do you imagine that the regular chatters are talking about you behind your back? (regular chatters at this point is a very exclusive club) I suppose that I may have expressed some frustration or made some joke about another dweller at some point, and if you had access to ALL of the chat logs you might be able to read it..... You know what else? Me and jinx talk about you all the time too. We try to outdo each other with flowery descriptions of what a sick twisted weirdo you are.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by monster

I think the point spexx is making is that he's a chat peeping tom. He listens/watches unseen in the hope of gleaning gossip/evidence of subplots etc. Just like V does/used to. Or maybe not even unseen, I wasn't in there last night, maybe he unclaocked...

Wrong.

Originally Posted by monster

Not only that but keeping a record of it?

Wrong again. When I go into chat, the last 25 or so lines are still there. I don't peep, and I don't keep records.

Originally Posted by monster

And he wonders why he's not a popular dwellar......

Oh, I know why I'm not popular. The truth hurts, doesn't it.

Originally Posted by monster

I bet he jerks off to zippy telling us about his latest plumbing achievements and jim bitching about just how late he's having to work.

No, I jerk off to all the backstabbing that goes on.

Now who is getting all nasty, and it's not even the politics or current events thread. You really jump to LJ's defense quickly - does Beest know about your feelings?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

yes, spex, anyone can log into chat any time and see the last 20-30 lines of chat from the previous discussion. it's kind of creepy to do if you weren't involved in the discussion, and you don't get a true sense of context for what you DO see there.

So..... what point are you trying to make exactly with all of this? Is there a chat conspiracy? Do you imagine that the regular chatters are talking about you behind your back? (regular chatters at this point is a very exclusive club) I suppose that I may have expressed some frustration or made some joke about another dweller at some point, and if you had access to ALL of the chat logs you might be able to read it..... You know what else? Me and jinx talk about you all the time too. We try to outdo each other with flowery descriptions of what a sick twisted weirdo you are.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. here you go dragging the same kind of shit that happens in the politics and current events forums out into the rest of the Cellar. What's sick, twisted, and weird is that you make me out to be the bad guy, when you did the deed. I just let everybody know. At least you lamely acknowledged what you've done.

BTW, who were the immature ones here? Who started with the insults? Who caled names?

Originally Posted by lumberjim

This made me think. I started this thread as a way of resolving a conflict.

So, what do I want the outcome to be? specifically, and generally.

Generally first:

1. I want the cellar to have a politics forum that facilitates the rational and respectful discussion of 'How humans control the powers that control them'

2. I want a Current Events forum that allows us all to 'Help understand the world by talking about things happening in it'

3. I want to be proud of my friends.

and then, Specifically:

1. I don't want to ban anyone....not even temporarily. I think that the ban hammer is a failure of the community to enfold and encourage the acceptance of all of our unique and individual brothers and sisters to this family.

2. I want TheMercenary, Redux, Classic, Spex, UG, Radar, UT, Shawnee, jinx, griff, Pie, and all y'all sisterfuckers to be more careful to respect each other's political beliefs. Treat it like a religion if it helps you to keep it in context. If you think about it, politics and religion are quite similar. As religions fall away, and Gods lose their power, they are incrementally replaced by political parties, and idealogies. So show the same respect you would if you were discussing religion with a Jew, or a Christian, or a Muslim, Hindu, Budhist, etc.

3. (someone take it from here....I've got to get to bed....

Maybe you should want this for the entire Cellar. Maybe you should behave in these ways yourself.

[kerosene]

I am still trying to figure out what is so bad about those few lines from chat. Jim rickrolled me and I called him a mutherfucker. I even spelled it wrong, so he would know I was not truly mad. Just playing along.

[Clodfobble]

Spexx doesn't understand that some people find lumberjim to be funny. He believes a rickroll to be damning evidence against him, that we all would be horrified at his behavior if only we knew.

[kerosene]

I knew I could count on you to clarify this for me, Clod. A rickroll from Jim is like a hug from a normal person. It's just his way.

[Shawnee123]

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Spexx doesn't understand that some people find lumberjim to be funny. He believes a rickroll to be damning evidence against him, that we all would be horrified at his behavior if only we knew.

That's not it at all, Clod. There was an insinuation that I couldn't know what was said in chat. I posted the last few lines of chat to show that anybody can see. The content was totally immaterial.

[classicman]

Hi Kerosene. How are ya?

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

I know, right?

I'm sorry. I was going to refute points in V's post, but decided to go for the easy laugh instead.

I wish you'd refuted points. His post seemed completely reasonable to me, and yours just called him insane. Not so much an easy laugh as a WTF.

I never argued politics or ideas with redux. I dont read his/her posts. I dont want to know all about him/her.

You don't read his posts, but you know he doesn't talk about his personal life enough, but you don't want to know anything about him. You don't like the lack of real discussion in the politics forum, but you won't argue politics or ideas with one of the frequent posters in that forum. You call BigV's worldview insane, but this seems a bit schizophrenic.

So, go back to PD and take your little bird with you, okay?

And now BigV should "go back" somewhere. Like he isn't a real Dwellar.