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Old 11-10-2009, 08:23 AM   #11
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I seen none of your "signs of ignorance and bigotry and calling for the spilling of blood to rid the nation of those nazis, socialists, and other anti-democratic demons", that is right out of the Pelosi talking points and it is fear mongering against anyone who dare disagree with the demoncratic congressional majority.
I agree completely that the Tea Baggers have legitimate concerns, although I dont share those concerns.

But the reason they are not a legitimate political force is that those concerns are being drowned out by the extremists among them that will detract from more reasonable independents taking up their cause at the ballot box.

Start with the perceived leadership -- Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, etc. and the lies and the myths they perpetuate, from the "death panels" to the "Obama is not a citizen" rhetoric...all of it contribute to the ignorant signs and shouts which drive others away.

Are these really the voices you want leading the revolution?

Or perhaps you want someone like Ron Paul leading the revolution....a guy who spurred the most recent grass roots movement in 08, but could barely get 5% of the vote in Republican primaries. Run as a third party? Works for me, it will simply divide the center-right and far right even more.

And then look in the mirror and you will see how the Cellar is a microcosm of much of what detracts from the movement....with similar ignorant posts from you and UG ( Nazi cunt, childish graphics, charges of socialism behind every Democratic program, personal attacks on the character of those with whom you disagree).

Do you really think that helps attract supporters to your cause?


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Let me see, Redux a nameless faceless Demoncratic Shrill vs a noted well published Economist? Hmmmm.... I think I'll stick with the scholar.
It is not about me. Your scholar is on the fringe.
In most western European countries and the United States, advocates of progressive taxation tend to be found among the majority of economists and social scientists, many of whom believe that completely proportional taxation is not a possibility. In the U.S., an overwhelming majority (81%) of economists support progressive taxation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_tax
The libertarian policies and positions espoused by you and Ludwig Von Mises Institute have never achieved any meaningful level of popular support anytime in history and anywhere in the western world....because they represent a fringe ideology and the vast majority of the economic and public policy scholars, and more importantly, the citizenry, recognize that such policies are not in the "peoples" best interest.

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