Alfie - 13 year old Dad

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by Redux

And the more extreme social conservative movement in the US prefer their 8 point plan for abstinence only education, including baseless scare tactics:

sexual activity outside the context of marriage is likely to have harmful psychological and physical effects

What, you've never heard of Hot-dog-down-a-hallway Syndrome? It's in the DSM-IV.

bearing children out-of-wedlock is likely to have harmful consequences for the child, the child's parents, and society

I think you'll find it pretty hard to argue with this one as it's written. Single parents have a harder life, their kids have a harder life, and society is asked to support one or both of them more often than married couples. I can't imagine anyone sanely arguing that having unplanned babies is a fine idea. Obviously there can be plenty of debate as to the best way to prevent unplanned pregnancies, but you really can't call the above statement a baseless scare tactic.

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

What, you've never heard of Hot-dog-down-a-hallway Syndrome? It's in the DSM-IV.

I think you'll find it pretty hard to argue with this one as it's written. Single parents have a harder life, their kids have a harder life, and society is asked to support one or both of them more often than married couples. I can't imagine anyone sanely arguing that having unplanned babies is a fine idea. Obviously there can be plenty of debate as to the best way to prevent unplanned pregnancies, but you really can't call the above statement a baseless scare tactic.

sexual activity outside the context of marriage is likely to have harmful psychological and physical effects

bearing children out-of-wedlock is likely to have harmful consequences for the child, the child's parents, and society

I would have no argument if it were described as "possible" rather than "likely"....there is no study that I have seen that supports the conclusion that harmful psychological and physical effects or harmful consequences for the child, the child's parents, and society are "likely"....to describe it in that manner, IMO, is a scare tactic.