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Old 03-01-2008, 07:24 PM   #31
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Umm...actually that was Yahweh thru Moses.

Anyway, aren't we getting way off topic here?
o shit. goddam I forgot. JESUS wansn't alive then... it was moses
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Old 03-01-2008, 08:56 PM   #32
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Old 03-01-2008, 10:40 PM   #33
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o shit. goddam I forgot. JESUS wansn't alive then... it was moses
Correctimundo. Now can we get back on topic?
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Old 03-01-2008, 11:00 PM   #34
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So now you just have the elspode witch brainfart apology/mybad to go....

(hint...he is a pagan... he used the word "we" in regard to witches....)
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Old 03-02-2008, 01:50 PM   #35
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Yes I did. Telling xi to stop "helping" witches tells me that Els think all witches are evil. Anyway, I don't think discussing it is weird at all, but I don't want to go into an extensive debate. I don't do debates.
Drax...I *am* a witch. For over ten years and going strong. My wife and I ran a Wiccan coven for that length of time, took a hiatus, and are now reforming it with family and extended family for the purpose of magickally and mundanely bringing greater unity, peace and healing to our respective worlds.

Mostly, I was joshing with Xi, because it seemed obvious that, like most people, there was a serious lack of knowledge about what witchcraft and witches are all about in today's world. In the same way that there is no one specific Christian ethos, witches, or those who call themselves such, have a wide range of beliefs, practices and ethical guidelines by which they function. However, if you walk around and call yourself a witch in most of society, people *will* think you're weird. However, apart from some other nonstandard lifestyle choices in our household, we're as normal and regular as anyone else. We have jobs, raise children, go to our version of church, pay taxes, counsel our friends and community members, and dance naked around fires while playing drums.

Okay, maybe the last part is something that most people don't do...but they want to.

So, to summarze...I don't think witches are weird. I think *people* are weird, and witches are people, just like everyone else. Think about it...how is it weirder for us to worship Universal energy in the form of trees and rocks and air and water and fire and such than it is for someone to worship an invisible, insecure, vindictive Omnipotent power named Jehovah?
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Old 03-02-2008, 05:24 PM   #36
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Drax...I *am* a witch.
That 's all you had to say.

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Think about it...how is it weirder for us to worship Universal energy in the form of trees and rocks and air and water and fire and such than it is for someone to worship an invisible, insecure, vindictive Omnipotent power named Jehovah?
It's not, in fact, it may be better cuz you know nature's real. Not even the most faithful can prove the existence of God, no matter what name we use.

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Old 03-02-2008, 08:08 PM   #37
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good show on right now.

The Human Body: Pushing the Limits

strength.....then sight ......


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Old 03-02-2008, 09:05 PM   #38
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for getting us back on topic.

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Old 03-03-2008, 03:35 PM   #39
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chirp chirp[/crickets]

Whew, good thing you steered this back on topic, Drax.
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:55 PM   #40
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ufo files/ufo hunters is pretty interesting.
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:30 PM   #41
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I like "ghost hunters" better......I got hooked on it and now I can't stop. I almost got hooked on ufo hunters but had to stop myself.
(seeing the potential arguments develop between me and my husband over tv programming in advance, I would have no leg to stand on and no excuse) He just got used to ghost hunters and I'm not pushing it. Especially since he puts up with the back to back episodes.
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