Kenya in Crisis

[tw]

Originally Posted by aimeecc

Please don't refer to me or my position as spin. I don't 'spin' things, nor do I appreciate the accusation. Furthermore, I'd appreciate if you stop refering to people that do not have the same world view as you as stupid.

Apparently you are entertaining emotions rather than dealing with the facts. Spin is exactly what is used to promote war as productive to an economy. Spin that is not based in facts or that uses half facts to make a point. You have posted popular urban myths - things justified by spin.

Spin says the Internet was developed by the military because it completely forgets the many others who were first offered the reserach and refused it - IBM and AT&T. Spin forgets to mention how many refused to innovate until finally the DoD came along. There is no way around why that other fact is missing - spin. Whether it is spin or a half fact says zero about aimeecc. aimeecc is does not even exist in (is irrelevant to) a discussion of myths and spin that forgets the frustrations of developing packet switching. aimeecc - did you know a most important part of that story about AT&T and iBM? If not, then you only knew the 'spin' version.

If getting emotional - if you think anything I have posted is insulting - then you don't belong in this discussion. I state bluntly that I am not poltically correct. One must be politically correct for those who entertain their emotions. Everything I have posted goes at politically incorrect and blunt facts. If you see any insult (and none was intended by me) then the insult is totally created in your own perception. Time to reread an only concentrate on principles.

How to read what I posted. The minute you see any insult, then read again to discover how you have completely misinterpreted my post. I make no effort to be 'careful' with anyone's emotions. One need only do that for adults who still need to be appeased. I have no interest in carefully rewording for emotional consideration. There is no insult of anyone in my posts. And they are written without wasting time worrying about emotion. People's emotions are not relevant to adults.

This is economics. The realities of ecomomics will insult those who have confused 'I feel this is true' logic with reality. Its not relevant if those realities make you upset. It's up to you to deal with the facts and to ignore your emotions. No one was insulted by me. That was never my intent. If you saw an insult, you are not reading with the intent of grasping the concepts.

[aimeecc]

Originally Posted by tw

Spin says the Internet was developed by the military because it completely forgets the many others who were first offered the reserach and refused it - IBM and AT&T. Spin forgets to mention how many refused to innovate until finally the DoD came along. There is no way around why that other fact is missing - spin.

Provide source documents.
Licklider, credited by many as a forefather (one of many) of the internet was always involved w/ DoD.
I could go on and on for about 100 pages, but you first need to provide source documents on why you call it spin "the Internet was developed by the military" and you CLAIM IBM and AT&T initially refused to research it. Who offered it to them to research? Wasn't Licklider. Wasn't Baran, also a forefather of the packet switching concept. Bet your referring to their failure to bid for the ARPA contract - a military contract. Their failure to bid on a military contract to explore the idea of packet switching does not at all validate your idea that its spin. Still goes back to who wanted it developed - the military.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by aimeecc

Provide source documents.
Licklider, credited by many as a forefather (one of many) of the internet was always involved w/ DoD.
I could go on and on for about 100 pages, but you first need to provide source documents on why you call it spin "the Internet was developed by the military" and you CLAIM IBM and AT&T initially refused to research it. Who offered it to them to research? Wasn't Licklider. Wasn't Baran, also a forefather of the packet switching concept. Bet your referring to their failure to bid for the ARPA contract - a military contract. Their failure to bid on a military contract to explore the idea of packet switching does not at all validate your idea that its spin. Still goes back to who wanted it developed - the military.

He can't. Give it up.