Bridge Collapse

[Uisge Beatha]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

You're just like everyone else.

I happen to believe you're right about everything except that one point, Aliantha. I firmly believe emotions are an integral part of the human experience, not just the trappings of childhood. Since tw seems to be so emotionless, he is different and has a correspondingly different viewpoint.

tw, you may well intend no insult with anything you post, but the situation is complicated by your unique perspective. You don't seem capable of entertaining the emotional responses so common to the rest of us. Even though you imply nothing, we often infer much due to our feelings.

[warch]

First, as I understand it, an identical bridge sits adjacent. Is it also failing? When was an emergency inspection conducted - and by whom?

Wrong. the entire north and southbound 35 W bridge collapsed. Each direction was reduced to two lanes from the usual four. so the load was reasonably balanced and actually lighter than usual. On a usual rush hour, take the victims x 2.

The standing bridge is older, not identical in that is not a single steel span. It is a four lane "top" street bridge, not a highway. It is at relatively the same height above the river as 35 used to be.

I've grown used to tw's manner. He touts the primacy of rationale, of the value of embracing a lack of emotion, yet his post are generally spiced with affect-laden phrases like "bean counters" and ironically are highly passionate, (no matter the logic) tirades. So, I am sort of humored by the irony of his argument that seems to escape him.

Yes there was structural failure. Do I blame Bush? no. Do I blame Pawlenty? no. Do I blame the tax payers league? (for alot of stuff but I think this thing was exempt from that noise.)

It strikes me, so far, as a human lack of understanding of the damage and threat. A poor decision but not necessarily with negligent intent. It may well have been the deicer, the rusting, the rumble of the train below, the heat, the vibration from the resurfacers, the fractures, all of the above. I want them to make sure this doesnt happen again. Surveyors were spotted on other bridges today. A lot of repair projects just got bumped to the top of the pile.

Has anyone seen the movie The Sweet Hereafter? I keep thinking about it as the blame is starting to swirl.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sweet_Hereafter

[xoxoxoBruce]

Goddamnit Warch, why did Nichole Burnell lie?

[tw]

Originally Posted by Uisge Beatha

tw, you may well intend no insult with anything you post, but the situation is complicated by your unique perspective. You don't seem capable of entertaining the emotional responses so common to the rest of us.

I have the same emotions. But I do not wear them on my sleeve. Notice which interviewed person gets aired on the news. The one that is crying. That give him credibility? Of course not. Those who wear their emtions on their sleeve are more often the lying party.

Meanwhile this is the post in question. Demonstrated is a difference between what yesman065 saw and what I saw. That yellow school bus: time to worry about it was long ago when this failure was predictable. Whereas contents of that bus were immediate concern to those on the bridge, instead, the rest of us should be worrying about all school busses. Show me where anything here insulted Yesman065. Why does Yesman065 never get past this first paragraph; completely ignore the technical facts? And why is it OK for Yesman065 to routinely insult me when I never once insulted him.

Well maybe I should post just like Yesman065. As so it begins.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Uisge Beatha

Since tw seems to be so emotionless, he is different and has a correspondingly different viewpoint.

Tw is not emotionless at all. Beat him in an argument sometime and you will see plenty of emotion, believe you me. And it's not a pretty sight. Speaking of emotion, I have never seen tw happy or visible in enjoyment. Since the beginning of the year, I have seen the occasional quite funny quip from him, though -- almost as if there were some New Year's resolution.

Originally Posted by Uisge Beatha

tw, you may well intend no insult with anything you post, but the situation is complicated by your unique perspective. You don't seem capable of entertaining the emotional responses so common to the rest of us. Even though you imply nothing, we often infer much due to our feelings.

I am not sure if this observation is of a cause or a symptom, but one thing tw is not is a politician -- he largely does not have the people skills for it, lacking them to such a degree as to suggest not mere ignorance but some organic, inborn deficiency. There are degrees of sociopathy.