Is America Dying?

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

I have told you why there is more violence in America than in the first-world countries. Of course there is something wrong but you can't blame a whole country for the mistake of a few people.

There is always an excuse.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

If you can come up with a solution I would love to hear it.

Close your border to the invaders.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

How is that bad?

You accuse me of "america bashing" but allow invaders to bash you in the streets in protests?? Are you joking me??

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Every government is corrupt.

Some more than others. Yours is not doing anything about it.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

No, it is other reasons why we are not getting to a solution.

What other reasons?

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Once again you are taking an isolated incident and blaming it on the entire country.

Not true. It seems a growing trend in america that criminals be rehabilitated instead of removed like they should. Why else do you have so many repeat offenders?

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Whether you know it or not your tone comes off like you are looking down upon the United States. That is superiority. Just because you lived here for two years or however long doesn't make you an expert on America.

I do not assume all criticism is bashing. I am one of the most heavy United States criticizers here but it is to change the way we live not look down upon it. The way you worded it makes it sound like bashing.

I'm sorry for my tone but can you suggest how I can express criticisms of the united states without offending hypersensitive americans?

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

There is always an excuse.

Then how should we fix it?

Close your border to the invaders.

How are we going to pay for it? What if they come in through the sea or through Canada?

You accuse me of "america bashing" but allow invaders to bash you in the streets in protests?? Are you joking me??

First, stop referring to Mexicans as invaders, the reasons they come to America is much deeper than "it is illegal". Second, they are protesting to try to change America. You are not trying to change America, just point out its problems. There is a big difference.

Some more than others. Yours is not doing anything about it.

The majority wants to do something about it but we don't have the power to do that. Once again, you are saying something bad about us without and anything that we can do to change. Yeah, we have our problems but so does your country. If I ever criticize your country on its policies, it will be constructive.

What other reasons?

The people don't have the power and the system is worked so politicians have to lie to become elected. That is not limited to America by the way.

Not true. It seems a growing trend in america that criminals be rehabilitated instead of removed like they should. Why else do you have so many repeat offenders?

Removed like they should? So you are implying that your method is the right method and ours is wrong? Rehabilitation is the way to go in my opinion, but that is wrong apparently. That all doesn't matter anyways because we are not going the direction you are talking about. How are you getting this information about our trends?

I'm sorry for my tone but can you suggest how I can express criticisms of the united states without offending hypersensitive americans?

By suggesting how we can realistically change. If you can not come up with a suggestion on how we can change then don't say anything because it will be pointless. You also have to remember that what works in your country may not work in our country because of other variables. Teach us how to live a better life and save ourselves from destruction, c'mon.

[Beestie]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Then how should we fix it?

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

By suggesting how we can realistically change. ... Teach us how to live a better life and save ourselves from destruction, c'mon.

Please tell us, duck_duck, how to fix our broken, shattered shell of a country! Teach us, duck_duck, we are lost without your guidance. Please save us from ourselves! Thank God duck_duck came along when she did to tell us what we must do! duck_duck for President!! W00T!!

Geezus effing Christ, Pierce grow a pair and quit grovelling to a Chinese teenage girl.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Beestie

Geezus effing Christ, Pierce grow a pair and quit grovelling to a Chinese teenage girl.

I'm thinking Pierce has a different agenda...

[duck_duck]

[quote=piercehawkeye45;349441]Then how should we fix it? [quote]
Try punishing the criminals for a change.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

How are we going to pay for it? What if they come in through the sea or through Canada?

You are the richest nation in the world and you want me to believe you can't afford to stop invaders?? hahaha Perhaps use the money that is wasted on them in social services to pay for it.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

First, stop referring to Mexicans as invaders, the reasons they come to America is much deeper than "it is illegal". Second, they are protesting to try to change America. You are not trying to change America, just point out its problems. There is a big difference.

People who enter any nation without permission are invaders. And when you let invaders protest in your streets is stupid and lazy on the part of your government.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

The majority wants to do something about it but we don't have the power to do that. Once again, you are saying something bad about us without and anything that we can do to change. Yeah, we have our problems but so does your country. If I ever criticize your country on its policies, it will be constructive.

The majority wants to do something about it but you don't have the power? .

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

The people don't have the power and the system is worked so politicians have to lie to become elected. That is not limited to America by the way.

So I guess america is not a free democracy after all.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Removed like they should? So you are implying that your method is the right method and ours is wrong? Rehabilitation is the way to go in my opinion, but that is wrong apparently. That all doesn't matter anyways because we are not going the direction you are talking about. How are you getting this information about our trends?

Holding hands with criminals does not work. Your crime rate proves that.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

By suggesting how we can realistically change. If you can not come up with a suggestion on how we can change then don't say anything because it will be pointless. You also have to remember that what works in your country may not work in our country because of other variables. Teach us how to live a better life and save ourselves from destruction, c'mon.

I have suggested realistic change but america seems to be to lazy to do anything about it's problems. You just talk and argue but do nothing with your troubles.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

I have suggested realistic change but america seems to be to lazy to do anything about it's problems. You just talk and argue but do nothing with your troubles.

But not too lazy to type the extra "o". Idgit.

[duck_duck]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

But not too lazy to type the extra "o". Idgit.

But still toO lazy to do anything about your dying nation. haha

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

I have suggested realistic change but america seems to be to lazy to do anything about it's problems.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the funniest thing ever posted in the Cellar, EVER. A sixteen year-old from HK has taken the time to ponder and then suggest "realistic changes" that all Americans should embrace for the good of the nation and yet---and yet---NO ONE LISTENS TO HER!

Tch. I'm shocked, really, I am. It almost seems as though America is mocking this bright genius who has all the answers. Well, cluck_cluck, you can't say you didn't try. If I were you, I'd just go home now.

Bye, honey buns!

I'm off for a pedicure!

[freshnesschronic]

Originally Posted by Brianna

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the funniest thing ever posted in the Cellar, EVER. A sixteen year-old from HK has taken the time to ponder and then suggest "realistic changes" that all Americans should embrace for the good of the nation and yet---and yet---NO ONE LISTENS TO HER!

Tch. I'm shocked, really, I am. It almost seems as though America is mocking this bright genius who has all the answers. Well, cluck_cluck, you can't say you didn't try. If I were you, I'd just go home now.

Bye, honey buns!

I'm off for a pedicure!

Amen. Like I said, nod your head and say "yes, mmhmm."

The plight of ducky is in her own head, have an internal monologue with yourself and America no on in the cellar cares, agrees or wants to HEAR the useless shit that comes out of your piehole. Take all your ideas and revolutions to policy and keep them in Hong Kong.

Do you even realize no one in the cellar takes you seriously? Look how many people think you are ridiculous. Save yourself, and Hong Kong's reputation of its youth.

[tw]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

You are the richest nation in the world and you want me to believe you can't afford to stop invaders?? hahaha Perhaps use the money that is wasted on them in social services to pay for it.

People who enter any nation without permission are invaders. And when you let invaders protest in your streets is stupid and lazy on the part of your government.

Your mistake: what you call invaders are the same people who contribute so much to the American economy. That also applies to other parts of the world such as Northern Italy. What you call invaders are really a rich source of responsible workers.

What happens when illegal immigrants are rounded up and deported? That region goes recessionary. The illegals being a very important and productive part of that economy. But then these are facts as even documented in Nebraska and upstate NY.

Again, the most productive people in any nation are its third generation immigrants. Illegal or legal does not matter. They are only illegal because American immigration laws are being promoted by the same fools who also insist Saddam had WMDs. They are even using the same logic.

Those immigrants - and those many student we have now drive from America using the same 'we fear them all' reasoning - are a major source of American wealth and productivity.

Those you call invaders are also some of the best workers in America. Apparently you have been listening to 'loud and vocal' extremists rather than listen to quiet logic from moderates. Those are the misguided one who claim illegal use the social services. They do not due to risks of being caught. Heavy users of social services tend to be the lazier citizens who instead it is their right - responsibility be damned.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by duck_duck

You accuse me of "america bashing" but allow invaders to bash you in the streets in protests?? Are you joking me??

Good point, I say we send in the tanks and Machine gun them down in the square.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Good point, I say we send in the tanks and Machine gun them down in the square.

We want to avoid genocide Merc, we've been over this. :p

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

We want to avoid genocide Merc, we've been over this. :p

Just a suggestion to use the "Chinese Method" of dealing with protests in the streets and squares of Amerixca.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Violent crime up as is illegal immigration.

[Beestie]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Just a suggestion to use the "Chinese Method" of dealing with protests in the streets and squares of Amerixca.

I think he missed your point. It was a good one too. Wish I had thought of it.