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[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Radar

I am not a Christian and don't believe in any bible stories. I was talking about whatever person was the first person. The first person to evolve from apes to be an actual person as we are now, and not a half-ape/half-man hybrid.

No such thing. No definition of "human" is anywhere near specific enough to designate a "first" human. If you somehow do arbitrarily pick the "first" human, they will have been much more similar to their parents than to you. Do the natural rights apply to the child, but not the parents?

[Radar]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

No such thing. No definition of "human" is anywhere near specific enough to designate a "first" human. If you somehow do arbitrarily pick the "first" human, they will have been much more similar to their parents than to you. Do the natural rights apply to the child, but not the parents?

All evolved species have evolved due to mutations. At some point a mutation occurred that gave us the very first human being. The non-humans who gave birth to this human would not have human rights, but their offspring would.

What does this really have to do with anything?

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Radar

All evolved species have evolved due to mutations. At some point a mutation occurred that gave us the very first human being. The non-humans who gave birth to this human would not have human rights, but their offspring would.

No such thing. There is no definition of human that could separate parents from children. Just like if you arbitrarily pick a point on the spectrum to be the "first red", it's going to be pretty orange.

The point of this is that rights can't be a physical reality if they only apply to an essentially arbitrarily chosen genome.