Guns will protect you from tsunamis.

[Hippikos]

And I'm still waiting for an answer: do you accept the use of deadly force for self-defense? Because if you don't, and you believe killing is always wrong, this dialogue is pointless.

I thought that was bleeding obvious, unless you have a large canon in front of your head. Of course I'm against killing and I'm against the death penalty. And the discussion is not pointless, it's the very essence. But then again all discussions about someting you don't agree with you regard as pointless.

Now, along with the technological advance, in Joe Citizen's weapons, there has been a tremendous, exponential even, increase in the different types of weapons invented, right up to nuke tipped missiles. Virtually none of these were ever intended for Joe Citizen, nor would he have a use for them, other than bragging rights...or drinkin' beer and blowin' shit up. That's why there are laws preventing Joe and his buddies from having those weapons, and I think that's a good idea.

OK, maybe not a nuke, but how about a bazooka? Hand granate? Stinger? M2 Browning? M1 36 Anti Tank weapon? Flamethrower? All portable. Remember according Maggie's Law it's the people who fire them, not the weapons itself.