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Old 01-06-2008, 11:59 PM   #11
piercehawkeye45
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First, Classicman, I was focusing on foreign policy with that quote. Foreign policy and internal affairs are not necessarily connected.

But, while I respect many of the opportunities that are available in the United States and that I directly benefit from many of them does not necessarily mean that we are a "good" country from every perspective. When it comes to other FIRST WORLD countries, the United States is behind in many different areas, while ahead in others.

I really don't feel like digging it up now, but I have seen many reports stating how the economic (class) mobility is low in the United States compared to other first-world countries because of how shitty our education is in low income areas. We are not that far ahead in health care, education, and many other aspects compared to other first world countries, but actually behind. If you disagree with any of those, it is only because we have different perspectives on how things should be run, which is subjective, so to say one is better than the other is as pointless as saying red is a better color than blue. Some people would rather have single-payer health care, some others favor privatized health care and then both sides can skew statistics to make their's look more favorable. But I have yet to see any statistic that shows the United States ahead in health care or education at the high school level, which does say something.

Also, you are looking at your view of the United States from a middle class white male's perspective. If you take a look from some American Indians, blacks, poor, and exploited foreigners perspective, you might see something different. All the benefits we receive are off the blood and bones of those four groups whether you will like to admit it or not. We NEEDED to displace, kill, and screw over the American Indians to get their land. We NEED(ED) the blacks for slave labor for the south, a static label to juxtapose whiteness (privileged class) with, and many of them die in our today's wars with very little benefits. We NEED the poor to power our urban areas and economy while they receive the short end of the stick on living conditions and pay. We NEED to exploit foreign countries to get rich (this mainly applies to the upper-class, not us) and our low prices at Walmart.

The United States is an extremely good country from some perspectives and a really bad country from others. We have made many innovations and without a doubt have changed the world since 1776, but we are no means any better than the other first-world countries in all or the majority of areas. We are definitely ahead of the rest of the world in some areas, but we are also behind in many others as well, it just depends on once again, perspective.

Why do you think so many people around the world hate us? It is not some bullshit excuse like you hear Bush and O'Reilly talk about, there are actual reasons.

Though, I would like to say, I do not point these flaws I see for hateful reasons, but because I want to improve our country in the areas that we are lacking in. I want to not only continue many of the great benefits every American citizen receives, but to turn our weaknesses into strengths. If I was just full of hate and looked at the United States in a condescending way, I would just move to Europe. That is the main difference between people like me and ducky.

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