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What is considered winning the war in Iraq?

Originally Posted by Griff

Removing top management...

Which is what happened when Rumsfeld was removed and when generals got their independence from a White House political agenda.

Meanwhile, what Yon has posted is also what O'Hanlon and Pollack stated in a 'White House promoted' commentary and what Petraeus was saying. It does not mean "Mission Accomplished" is being won. Concepts behind what each is saying discussed in this post in Bush's Shrinking Safety Zone.

Nothing even in Yon's report says anything about winning the war. Only a fool who did not learn from Nam would make that assumption. Even Petraeus was saying that repeatedly. He can win the battles but he cannot win the war.

Meanwhile troops are now doing some nation building in a country where one in three is now destitute - in need of welfare – during a time when George Jr said we were winning. So what did we win?