Lieing Is NOT a Nessesity

[Pie]

Originally Posted by jinx

If you're ok with lying it must mean you're ok with being lied to.
Does that mean you trust everyone, or trust no one?

I assume I'm always being lied to. I haven't been disappointed yet.

To put it in less stark terms, I assume I have no insight into other's real POV, motivations or standards. I (usually) will play along at whatever game they portray at any given moment.

I lost my trust when CP violation was proved.

[HungLikeJesus]

If I believe that the person I'm talking to assumes they are being lied to, then I must lie to them so that they will not know the truth. All the negatives cancel out.

[Shawnee123]

I just worry so much about my pants being on fire!

[HungLikeJesus]

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus

If I believe that the person I'm talking to assumes they are being lied to, then I must lie to them so that they will not know the truth. All the negatives cancel out.

Whoops! That should have been "If I believe that the person I'm talking to assumes they are being lied to, then I must lie to them so that they will know the truth."

[jinx]

Originally Posted by Pie

I assume I'm always being lied to. I haven't been disappointed yet.

To put it in less stark terms, I assume I have no insight into other's real POV, motivations or standards. I (usually) will play along at whatever game they portray at any given moment.

I lost my trust when CP violation was proved.

CP violation?

In general I trust people unless I'm given reason not too. I've been disappointed many times, but it's not even a conscious thing... It occurs to me that people are often incorrect, but I'm continuously surprised that they lie.

I'm talking about real lies here, not what you say to annoying cow orkers fishing for compliments about their retarded new haircut - I agree with you on that front. I mean unsolicited deception.

[casimendocina]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

If you're at someone's house for dinner, and the food is shit, just find a time to thank them for inviting you over, or don't say anything. A chef who actually asks "What did you think of the meal?" is being a dick in their own right, putting the guest on the spot for an expected lie, and deserves what they get.

I take inspiration from the blue soup scene in Bridget Jones's Diary for this kind of situation.

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by jinx

CP violation?

In general I trust people unless I'm given reason not too. I've been disappointed many times, but it's not even a conscious thing... It occurs to me that people are often incorrect, but I'm continuously surprised that they lie.

I'm talking about real lies here, not what you say to annoying cow orkers fishing for compliments about their retarded new haircut - I agree with you on that front. I mean unsolicited deception.

That's a great way to put it: unsolicited deception. It feels almost like a diss to me, like they're saying "yes, you can't handle the truth." Well, I betcha I can. Otherwise, shut it!

I tend to warily trust people until they give me a reason not to, as well. I have known some skilled liars. The first inlking of deception, then, throws me into DEFCON 1 and it's unlikely I'll ever really trust that person again...even if it was a moment of weakness or apprehension on their part. Because I am naively honest, I don't understand why lies have to enter into it at all.

It's OK to be a private person, to not regurgitate every thought, to not put oneself completely 'out there' but whatever comes out should be truthful...or everything else becomes suspect.

[skysidhe]

I like people who can be straight up.
Straight up can be respectful,humorous, teasing but with no alterior motive, passive aggressive baggage kind of way.