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JBKlyde 05-29-2010 11:29 AM

Lieing Is NOT a Nessesity
 
In science fiction you make stuff up that appears close to the truth and technology tries to make it real. At one point people begin to believe and then when they see a flaw in the apparently flawless drama they call it a lie. The fact, it wasn't true to begin with and we have been building on fiction.

When I was in a summer fun program at "southern baptist" academy the care worker MR. Morrision use to create these elaborate stories and tell them to the children. The older kids knew it wasn't true and called him a liar, as at one point he told a child that a piece of barnical that they found at the beach was a mermaid brain. The younger kids looked at him with a fasination that made him a God.

So at one point you have to "come clean" and say yes it's not true. Lieing is not a nessesity. Once you get labled a liar it's difficult to find a common ground of truth, and to quit lieing. Science fiction is the basis of most of what I write, what's interesting is that it has a way of becoming science fact. Seperation of fact and fiction, such as a video game vs a philosophy of understanding is important because we find a variety of very interesting concepts in the video games today. Alot of the fictional games we play are very close to real life drams that play out in every day life.

Total Annilation for example. There's nothing real about it but it teaches military strategy, that can be very real if the user plays it long enough. These games may seem irreleveant to real life, but the conscious of the player is effected by the game it self.

So why lie?. "The rabbit" is a myth therefore it can't die unless people stop believing, just like Santa Clause. In order to defeat the lieing spirit one must find the first lie and repent then make a consious decesion not to lie anymore.

What we have created is a tangled web of mythogoly that we all know is not true from the begging. Kind of like a fishing story, the fish is always just a little bit bigger than you know it really was.

Pie 05-29-2010 11:34 AM

Spelling is not a necessity either, it would seem.

lumberjim 05-29-2010 12:08 PM

Oh, sure...way to grab the low hanging fruit there, Pie. I'm going to make fun of his apparent youth and naivete instead. That will demonstrate my perceptiveness and simultaneously make me seem mature and condescending.

JBKlyde 05-29-2010 12:37 PM

so do you want to get down to business or do you want to keep playing games; either way is fine by me...

http://www.businessdictionary.com/de...on/person.html

lookout123 05-29-2010 12:50 PM

I'd like to get down to business. Of course, I might be lieing.

lumberjim 05-29-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBKlyde (Post 659250)
so do you want to get down to business or do you want to keep playing games; either way is fine by me...

http://www.businessdictionary.com/de...on/person.html


Why do you suppose one gets down to business?

Why am i up to no good? The up perspective seems to lend itself to nefarious activities...... He's up to something, I can tell.....

While down is good.... he's a very down to earth guy..... get down and boogie....

HungLikeJesus 05-29-2010 02:03 PM

He's a lowdown dirty scoundrel. I'm a stand-up guy.

JBKlyde 05-29-2010 02:04 PM

It's a matter of perspective. Getting high is a demented form of logic because ones state of being is usually off set buy the drug.

Aiming High is a form of logic that gets a special edge because the level of expertise for someone in the Air Force is "HIGHER."

To make a long story short your a pessimis, the glass is half empty.

eq. UP and Atom and Down and Out, would be a different perspective all togheter

lumberjim 05-29-2010 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBKlyde (Post 659268)
It's a matter of perspective. Getting high is a demented form of logic because ones state of being is usually off set buy the drug.

Aiming High is a form of logic that gets a special edge because the level of expertise for someone in the Air Force is "HIGHER."

To make a long story short your a pesemis, the glass is half empty.

eq. UP and Atom and Down and Out, would be a different perspective all togheter

I think you've had a pesemis in your mouth before.

JBKlyde 05-29-2010 03:31 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pessimism

Cloud 05-29-2010 03:45 PM

I sure hate that tangled web of mythogoly. It's sticky!

lumberjim 05-29-2010 05:48 PM

I think I'm going to enjoy ol JB here.

JBKlyde 05-29-2010 05:51 PM

It certainly is sticky, however it's important to remember that, the test yielded remarkable results, so we must have done something right. Looking back if I could have it all to do over. I would have been much more tight lipped and more concerned with the majority rather than myself. I also would have focused on being more respondsable. I duno, I'm happy to be me. I just hope the universe is tollerable with my somewhat irrational state of being that I find myslef in.. everyone gets 15 mininutes of fame and mines up. So now it's just time to find myself. Anyone got any Ideas where I should look???

Undertoad 05-29-2010 06:04 PM

Do not look unto yourself any longer. Look to others.

ZenGum 05-29-2010 07:24 PM

Quote:

Anyone got any Ideas where I should look???
Dictionary?

Seriously, JB, there are some interesting things to discuss here, but sometimes your meaning is obscured by poor spelling. Most of it we can figure out, but in some cases it does impede communication.

For example, from post #1
Quote:

...but the conscious of the player is effected by the game it self.

... then make a consious decesion ...
The second "conscious" seems correct. The first might be either consciousness (state of mind) or conscience (sense of moral right and wrong) and that makes a big difference to your point.


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