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Old 10-24-2007, 03:52 AM   #16
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There is no merit to any argument I've heard that the War on Terror is anything like illegal, rk, and it's an absurd thing for one of your intelligence to believe.
There are a lot of very well respected people and highly intelligent people in the world who share that viewpoint. Just because you disagree as to what constitutes an illegal war (bearing in mind, what may be legal in your country is not necessarily considered legal in International law) does not mean you have a monopoly on intelligence. If people disagree with you it is because they have a different viewpoint, not simply that they lack your amazing powers of intellect.
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Old 10-24-2007, 03:24 PM   #17
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If people disagree with you it is because they have a different viewpoint, not simply that they lack your amazing powers of intellect.
Which is just another way of saying there is no 'good and evil'. Instead there are 'different perspectives'.
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Old 10-24-2007, 03:26 PM   #18
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Personally, I can't get enough war against fascisms and autocracies: they must go, and it makes little odds to me if they go quietly, as the DDR did, or with blood, fire and noise. It's only important that they go and enlightened, representative governments replace them, permanently. I'd rather have a desert than a dictatorship.
How ironic. That is completely contrary to what Thomas Barnett says. Barnett is particularly critical of those who would solve problems with military force and completely ignore phase four planning. Phase four planning - the most necessary part to win any war. Phase four is based in civil affairs and planning for the peace; not in deserts and destruction that UG so loves. Urbane Guerrilla says he completely agrees with Barnett. He has yet to represent what Barnett wrote. Apparently UG rewrote Barnett's book to fit his political agenda.

Still waiting for UG's publication of the Pentagon Papers. He did not read that either. Instead UG rewrote it.

Apparently UG is a prolific author who only needs a publisher.

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Old 10-24-2007, 04:35 PM   #19
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is this thing on?

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Old 10-24-2007, 05:42 PM   #20
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Yes but it's just you and me, man. Everybody else left, one in a huff, and one in a snit.... Oh, and one on a high horse.
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:25 PM   #21
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What tw, pedlar of half truths, would like you not to know is Barnett isn't going to take military options off the table; international politics and relations simply aren't going to let you succeed if you do. Tw seems to believe I can't appreciate a comprehensive strategy of both war and peace -- well, it's typical of tw to believe what is wrong, as we all know with tw being the prominent exception.

Tw, you're going to have to read what I say, not what you see; your vision has been monstrously distorted as long as I've known you. The evil people are the ones to say the loudest that there are only "different perspectives." "Different perspectives" do occur, but so does good and evil. Yet tw, follower of wrongness that he is, will tell you otherwise to drag you down into his slough.
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:43 PM   #22
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Tw seems to believe I can't appreciate a comprehensive strategy of both war and peace ...
Classic 'big dic' thinking cannot think strategically let alone peace - or even the purpose of war.
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Personally, I can't get enough war against fascisms and autocracies: ... I'd rather have a desert than a dictatorship.
Barnett's fundamental concepts are about building a world without all that combat. Completely contradictory to the Urbane Guerrilla's political agenda. UG perfers deserts to dictatorships. War solves everything. Ironically, UG's solution is to become a dictatorship as Cheney also advocates.

Barnett is about gloabalization without making deserts. If UG read for facts rather than for a political agenda, then he might understand Barnett.

UG and Cheney sound so much alike. We should be preparing for WWIII. Not because we have enemies. Because people like Urbane Guerrilla and Cheney will do what is necessary to create those enemies. How many nations will be added to the axis of evil? Concepts that morphed into 'Project for a New American Century' would add Germany, Russia, and India to that list.

Urbane Guerrilla is a perfect example of ‘big dic’ thinking that would also rewrite Thomas Barnett’s book. It is called propaganda. Those who most love dictatorships also use propaganda liberally. Another ironic twist. UG uses something 'liberally'?
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:36 PM   #23
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:48 PM   #24
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Mama is still fighting Vietnam war IEDs. Today's IEDs use remote control radios, buried wires, infrared transceivers, and optical sensors. Trip wires were how another set of insurgents defeated the US Army by not confronting that Army in combat.
Please tell me that you are not a full time idiot. Your comments are naive and so out of date.
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:49 PM   #25
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Classic 'big dic' thinking...
I am really beginning to think that you are obsessed with "Big Dicks".
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:50 PM   #26
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hey....aren't we all?
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:59 AM   #27
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Tw, your delusions about my thinking keep you stuck with the rancid integrity of a twat, etc. You are only mistaken, and determined to remain so to invite a good chewing-out.

I am interested in winning the wars, and you should know they will come whether I want them, or don't want them; my desires don't enter into it much. There will be fights in the Non-Integrating Gap.
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:09 AM   #28
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So, now we are at war with the Iraqi people? I thought we we helping them? How does one win at helping?
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:11 AM   #29
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Where are you getting that one, Rk?
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:22 AM   #30
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