Its not just the Catholics anymore

[SamIam]

The Mormon Church has joined the fray in the abuse of innocent children. This time it is Boy Scouts. A Scout Master confessed that he had abused at least 17 scouts. Mormon officialdom allowed this man to continue to lead scout troops even after his wrong-doing came to light.

PORTLAND, Ore. (CN) - A jury is deliberating whether the Boy Scouts of America and a local council were negligent in allowing a man to remain active in Scouting after he confessed to the Mormon bishop who supervised his troop that he had sexually abused at least 17 boys. The case has drawn national attention because the jury will be allowed to review some 2,900 "Ineligible Volunteer" files, in which the Scouts recorded suspected abuse by scoutmasters and scouts from 1964 to 1984.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/04/09/26265.htm

[classicman]

BAD Thread title. It never was just the Catholics.

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by classicman

BAD Thread title. It never was just the Catholics.

Well, scuse me. I do the best I can with my befuddled tiny mind.

[Shawnee123]

It's not just the (insert wacked-out religion here) anymore.

It WAS just the Catholics where the top dogs were covering it up at such a level that they were basically sanctifying it, which has been the point all along. NO ONE thinks only Catholics are child molestors.

edit: church cover-ups that people KNEW about. This is a good thing, the exposure of other churches...church leaders should take heed, no matter the church. Touch one kid inappropriately...prosecute. It's easy to do. Just switch out some of the letters in "persecute."

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

NO ONE THINKS ITS JUST THE CATHOLICS WHO ARE PEDOPHILES...

You are arguing a point that I never made. Why do you keep bringing it up? It was ALWAYS that it was never just the Catholic Church who covered shit up. . .

Originally Posted by SamIam

Mormon officialdom allowed this man to continue to lead scout troops even after his wrong-doing came to light.

Bold mine.

Originally Posted by classicman

BAD Thread title. It never was just the Catholics.

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

It WAS just the Catholics where the top dogs were covering it up at such a level that they were basically sanctifying it, which has been the point all along.

I disagreed and now YOU are the one bent outta shape.
This appears to be a simple misunderstanding, but your rigidity in this case escalated the situation.

I have no problem with you hating the Catholic Church. You have made that abundantly clear.

Originally Posted by classicman

I know I'm missing something . . . ???

And your reply...

for fuck's sake. quit picking my posts apart into shreds...if you read the whole thing, as conversation (shut the fuck up before you say it, mercface) you MIGHT see my point.

I was trying to steer the discussion to that which I was referring to since there was obviously something awry.

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Sheesh. I don't give a fuck about your stupid church ...your leaders

I have serious issues with the Catholic Church - I have for years. I haven't donated to them.
I do not nor have I ever condoned their actions in this matter. I have my own beliefs, thank you.

Anyone who molests a child should rot in a cell or much worse. Those who covered up for them should also be penalized just like one who is an accomplice in other crimes.

[Shawnee123]

We forgive you. Say 10 Hail Marys and 5 Our Fathers.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by SamIam

Well, scuse me. I do the best I can with my befuddled tiny mind.

It wasn't that I thought you meant that Sam - It was more a case of the way it could be read.



Never said that, Shaw. Grrrrrrrr...

The implication I got from ...

Its not just the Catholics anymore

The Mormon Church has joined the fray...

The (insert religion of choice) have never been the only ones. They all have and they all probably still do to some degree. Just like large companies/corporations do with other things or tobacco companies did/do with the cancer info.

[Shawnee123]

And Sam's point, along with others', has been that the church leaders, the big kahunas, covered it up.

Child molestation in religion and smoking risks in corporations? Are you serious?

Granted, I'd praise the Holy Tobacco before I'd praise the crap I was taught as a kid...but equating one's beloved church to big corp is REALLY a stretch.

Are you, then, saying the Catholic Church is really just a great big corporation?

[classicman]

And MY fuckin point is that is isn't and
NEVER HAS BEEN JUST THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. Mmmkay?

yes, in the context of what I am saying

and yes - churches are more like tax free-corps

[Shawnee123]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

It's not just the (insert wacked-out religion here) anymore.

It WAS just the Catholics where the top dogs were covering it up at such a level that they were basically sanctifying it, which has been the point all along. NO ONE thinks only Catholics are child molestors.

edit: church cover-ups that people KNEW about. This is a good thing, the exposure of other churches...church leaders should take heed, no matter the church. Touch one kid inappropriately...prosecute. It's easy to do. Just switch out some of the letters in "persecute."

Originally Posted by classicman

And MY fuckin point is that is isn't and
NEVER HAS BEEN JUST THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. Mmmkay?

yes, in the context of what I am saying

and yes - churches are more like tax free-corps

Did you miss my post, honey bumpkin?

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Did you miss my post, honey bumpkin?

Nope got it right here -

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

It WAS just the Catholics...

Originally Posted by classicman

And MY fuckin point is that is isn't and
NEVER HAS BEEN JUST THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

I know I'm missing something . . . ???

[Spexxvet]

The church janitor was mopping behind the confessionals, when a preist rushed out and said to him "I have to pee real bad. Sit in the booth while I'm gone". The janitor sits in the confessional, and a woman comes in the other side, sits down, and says "father, forgive me, for I have sinned. I'm married and had sex with another man". The janitor told the woman "say an 'Our Father'". The woman said "but it was bad, father, it was with a black man". The janitor told her to "say an 'Our Father' and a 'Hail Mary'". The woman said " but father, it was ORAL sex". The janitor was at a loss, he didn't know what to give beyond an 'Our Father' and 'Hail Mary'. He peeked out the back of the confessional, hoping the preist was returning, but all he saw was an altar boy. He called the altar boy over and asked "what does father usually give for oral sex?" "A soda and a candy bar" said the altar boy.

Old, but applicable and still funny.

[Shawnee123]

Go pray in your corporation then. I'm sure that's what Jebus envisioned.

Methinks he doth protest too much, hmmmmmmmmmm?

fuckity fuck fuck fuckity fucky fuck?...religion makes you PEACEFUL, cause it's all about the lovin' of the fellow man and all.

Peace out, man.

[Shawnee123]

Oh gawd I forgot why I don't converse with you on such topics.

IT WAS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WE WERE ALL HEARING ABOUT WHEN WE WERE INCENSED THAT THE BIG FUCKING FUCKERS WERE COVERING IT UP AND NOW WE'RE HEARING ABOUT OTHER CHURCHES COVERING UP AND THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR THE PRIESTLY DUDES AND NO ONE THINKS ITS JUST tHE CATHOLICS WHO ARE PEDOPHILES...

for fuck's sake. quit picking my posts apart into shreds...if you read the whole thing, as conversation (shut the fuck up before you say it, mercface) you MIGHT see my point.

Sheesh. I don't give a fuck about your stupid church...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmkay? I don't care if you praise lightposts...if your leaders think it's OK to cover up crime I'm going to comment on that.

Catholics are so...fearful.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

...Catholics are so...fearful.

Anyone whose power is based on unsubstantiated non-facts (faith) gets defensive when questioned.